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THE BIRTHPLACE OF MINNESOTA J
STILLWATER PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD
MEETING
November 28. 1994
The Stillwater Parks and Recreation Board will meet Monday, November 28, 1994
at 7:00 p.m. in the Council
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CITY HALL: 216 NORTH FOURTH STILLWATER, MINNESOTA 55082 PHONE: 612-439-6121
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PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION
Nov. 28, 1994
Present: David Junker, chairman
Richard Cummings, AI Liehr, Ken Meister,
Delwin Peterson, Mike Polehna, Marguerite Rheinberger,
and Steve Wolff
Others
Ann Terwedo, planning
Absent:
Robert McGarry and Michelle Roettger
Mr. Junker called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
Approval of minutes
AI Liehr, seconded by Del Peterson, moved approval of the minutes of Oct.
24, 1994; all in favor.
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Snowmobile Vail reQuest
Mr. Junker invited comments from the 50+ people in attendance regarding
the request to allow the use of the walking path/bike path along McKusick
lake Road for a snowmobile trail.
Nora Gallmeyer, coordinator for the Washington County Star Trail
Association, said the association had received a request to mark and
maintain the new pathway as a snowmobile trail from Manning to Owens
Street. She noted that there was a snowmobile trail in that location
several years ago.
Dennis Jones, Fischer Circle, asked about the purpose of the city path. Mr.
Junker responded that the path was intended as a multi-purpose path for
walking and use by non-motorized vehicles. Mr. Polehna noted that county
policy is to allow the use of snowmobiles on bike trials. However, Ann
Terwedo said the city funded the path for biking and walking in the city
limits. Mr. Jones said allowing snowmobiles would be a misuse of the trail
and represented a danger to walkers, as well as a nuisance due to noise.
Corrine Jones said she walks on the path all winter.
Bob Schmidt, McKusick Road lane, said use of snowmobiles was not
compatible with the intent of a walking and biking path. Mr. Schmidt said
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into a road from Manning into the city to go to saloons.
Ray Davis, Laurel Street, said snowmobiles had been on Lake McKusick for
years. There is noise at all hours when the bars close. And he said, there
never was a snowmobile trail previously -- it was a road.
Pete Black, Towne Circle, presented a petition with 120 signatures
opposed to allowing the use of snowmobiles on the path/trail. He noted the
original petition for a walking path was to have a path that could be used
for walking 12 months of the year.
Heidi Stevenson, Towne Circle, thanked the commiSSion for making the
path and said she had enjoyed watching people use the path.
Brian Hirsch, Sherburne Street, noted the snowmobile trail would
terminate at the Harbor on Owens Street, which already is a bad
intersection. He suggested the possibility of allowing cross country skiing
on the path.
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Others speaking in opposition to allowing the use of snowmobiles were:
Helen Torelle, Laurel Street; Lorraine Carlson, Amundson Drive; William
Nelson, who owns lots at McKusick Road/Towne Circle; Dave Morgan,
Fischer Circle, Sara Simington, Towne Circle; Willard Cochrane, McKusick
Road Lane; Dan Nichols, Amundson Drive; Chuck Wolsky, Fischer Circle; and
a resident of 931 Towne Circle. Several people who spoke did not identify
themselves.
Mr. Cummings passed out copies of the city snowmobile ordinance which
prohibits operation of the machines on city sidewalks or walkways. Mr.
Peterson noted that snowmobiles can be operated on city streets during
specified hours.
Mr. Junker thanked everyone for their comments.
Mr. Wolff moved to recommend denial of the request to use the
path/walkway for snowmobiles and to recommend that the city consider
plowing the path so it can be used by walkers throughout the winter. Mr.
Cummings seconded the motion; all in favor.
Benson Park Vpdate
Ms. Terwedo told the commission that the final grade has been competed
and water and sewer services installed. Twenty-five trees were
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walkway and remainder of the landscaping will be completed next spring;
$30,000 is budged for Benson Park next year.
Mr. Polehna questioned why park department staff didn't plant the trees,
rather than hiring a professional landscaping firm to do the planting. Ms.
Terwedo said the public works department was so busy with all this
year's projects that city staff wasn't available. Mr. Junker suggested that
when the landscaping is completed next spring, city crews should be used
as much as possible.
Parks report
Tim Thomsen was plowing and was not in attendance. Ms. Terwedo said
crews had started flooding some of the skating rinks.
Mr. Junker noted that the Elks were starting their Christmas tree sale at
Lily Lake but had not appeared before the Park Commission requesting use
of the tennis court area. Mr. Cummings said representatives of the club
had appeared before the City Council and the Council did express a concern
regarding cleanup of the courts in a timely manner.
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Mr. Polehna asked about the $11,000 that been set aside for Richard
Anderson to fix the leaking roof at the Lily Lake ice arena. Mr. Thomsen
had reported at the previous meeting that the leaking had stopped when
the dehumidifier was made operational, which would indicate the $11,000
should be returned to the city.
New business
Mr. Cummings told commiSSion members that a big issue before the City
Council is developing a list of capital improvement projects to be
accomplished with money available now that TargetlSuperValu has paid
off all assessments. He said if the commission wants to see money
obligated to parks/park development, it ought to develop a project list. Mr.
Peterson noted that the commission has identified project it wants done,
but agreed it should be a concrete list of requesting X amount of $ to
accomplish certain projects.
Mr. Cummings also told the commission that a proposal has been made for
the city to sell the property the city owns at the site of the proposed new
National Guard Armory/community center/arena. Mr. Polehna said it should
go on record that the Park Commission favors keeping that land for a
park/community center unless it can be sold for a price that will allow
the city to get a better site in return. There was also a discussion about
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Mr. Cummings also informed the commiSSion that Cub Foods has made a
proposal to purchase the city parking lot on North Third Street. Mr. Liehr
noted the sale might enable Cub to use the property, a prime piece of
property with a wonderful view, for some other purposes and expressed
his opposition to any sale.
Judy Gulden, resident of Ward 2, has written a letter of interest regarding
appointment to fill the vacancy on the Park Commission. However, Ms.
Gulden's letter of interest was received after Angela Anderson had agreed
to accept appointment. Mr. Junker noted that the commission has never
recommended possible appointees to the City Council; appointment has in
the past been strictly up to the City Council, he said. Mr. Wolff, seconded
by Mr. Peterson, moved to refer the appointment issue to the City Council.
There was a brief discussion about setting a work plan and goals for 1995.
Unfinished business
Mr. Junker asked whether anything has been done about Gannon's parking
lot, which he said "looks terrible." Mr. Cummings said the matter has been
before the City Council and the Council agreed the lot should be cleaned up
and parking enforced. Mr. Junker said the commission should recommend
that the Council pursue the issue "real hard."
Mr. Wolff, seconded by Mr. Liehr, moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:20 p.m.
All in favor.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording secretary
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Washington County Star Trail Association
November 7,1994
Nile Kriesel
Washington County
14900 - e1st st. N.
Stillwater MN 55082
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TO: Members of the Council,
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The Washington County Star Trail is requesting a written agreement between the City
of Stillwater and Washington County Star Trail to use the Bicycle Trail along McKuslck Road as a
Snowmobile Trail In the winter months. We were Baked by one of the business owners In Stillwater.
The 13 Clubs which make up star Trail Association wUl msrX and maintain It In
accordance with the state of MInnesota Grants and Aid Regulations. We will also carry the
Liability Inxurance on It.
With the Snowmobile Clubs Involvement It will ensure safe and enjoyable rtdlng for all.
and will also encourlilge Snowmobilers to stay on marked and groomed trails rather than riding on
Private Property, etc.
Sincerely yours
Nora Gallmeyer . Coordinator
Washington County Star Trail Association.
P .S. I?lease fax me a copy of the Agenda for the Council meeting 0 the 15th
Fax to Nora Gallmeyer 782-1755
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MEMORANDUM
TO:
Mayor and City Council
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City Coordinator
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SUBJECT:
Use of McKusick Lake Road for Snowmobiles
DATE:
November 9, 1994
The City has received a request from the Washington County Star Trial Association requesting
permission to use the bike/walkjng path constructed in conjunction with the upgrade of McKusick
Lake Road as a snowmobile trail. Washington County has jurisdiction over the use of the path.
However, they require approval of the City before they designate paths as snowmobile trails.
The Council may want to consider directing this request to the Park and Recreation Board for review
and recommendation.
Depending upon the recommendation of tll.e Park and Recreation Board, the Council may also want
to consider holding a pubic hearing on this request as ~Nell (given the proximity of the residential
development in this area).
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Public Meeting Notice
Regarding
Possible Snowmobile Trail on McKusick Road Bike Trail
The City of Stillwater has received a request from the Washington County Star
Trail Association to enter an agreement to use the new bicycle trail on McKusick
Road as a snowmobile trail 0 hso
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CITY HALL: 216 NORTH FOURTH STILLWATER, MINNESOTA 55082 PHONE: 612-439-6121