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THE BIRTHPLACE OF MINNESOTA J
STILL WATER PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD
MEETING NOTICE
November 27,1995
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CITY HALL: 216 NORTH FOURTH STILLWATER, MINNESOTA 55082 PHONE: 612-439-6121
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PARK AND RECREATION BOARD
Nov. 27, 1995
Present:
David Junker, chairman
Richard Cummings, Judy Gulden, AI Liehr, John Melville,
Ken Meister, Delwin Peterson, and Steve Wolff (8:15 p.m.)
Others
Susan Fitzgerald, planning
Absent:
Rob McGarry, Mike Polehna, and Marguerite Rheinberger
Mr. Junker called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
Mr. Liehr, seconded by Mr. Peterson, moved approval of the minutes of Oct. -
23, 1995.
Update on Wildwood Pines
Ms. Fitzgerald explained that she, City Engineer Klayton Eckles and Parks
Director Tim Thomsen had visited the site. It was staff's finding that
there is not enough area to provide a park as requested. She said one issue
is the .,amount of wetlands; the non-wetlands area on the site is minimal
and s~anding water could be a liability issue, she said. It also was noted
that if the site is a designated park, parking will have to be provided.
Access and maintenance are additional concerns.
Mr. Peterson questioned how the area could be used considering its size
limitations. Marie Meissner suggested it could be used like the former play
area by Gannon's. Amy Hooley said there needs to be an. alternative for the
300-400 kids in the neighborhood who currently don't have access to any
parks, other than by crossing a 50 mph street.
Mr. Melville suggested that the city should develop a strategy of how to
make use of such small parcels -- "pocket parks" -- in conjunction with
neighbors. Mr. Cummings agreed that a "tot-lot", rather than a designated
park, would be a potential use for the site in question. Marie Meissner said
neighbors are not talking about a "grandiose idea," just a small area where
kids can play.
Mr. Melville made a motion to form a committee including two
neighborhood representatives, a Park and Rec representative, and city
staff to explore the possibility of establishing a designated "play area;" as
suggested, there will be a high amount of neighborhood participation,
including maintenance, in such designated play areas. Mr. Liehr seconded
the motion; all in favor. Mr. Liehr agreed to serve as the committee .
coordinator.
Comprehensive Park Vision
Mr. Cummings asked for members' reaction to Mr. Jim Bradshaw and Dr.
Willette's presentation at the October meeting. Mr. Junker said he really
didn't know what Dr. Willette wants or what the process entails. Ms.
Gulden said developing a comprehensive vision could help deal with issues,
such as pocket parks.
Mr. Junker asked if any board members would be wiling to be participate in
the initial ad hoc committee of three or four people that Dr. Willette
would begin the process with. Mr. Melville said he was comfortable with
the concept, but not comfortable with a committee of three or four people-
beginning with ideas that nobody really understands. Ms. Gulden suggested
that other people making decisions need to be involved; Mr. Junker agreed
that the Park and Rec Board is just one part of the puzzle, suggesting that
the V AA, the Open Space Committee, the School District and other entities
possibly should be involved.
Mr. Cummings agreed that the membership of the ad hoc committee is a
critica,l issue. Mr. Meister suggested that a staff person should be
assigned to the committee; Mr. Liehr suggested that perhaps the entire
Park and Rec Board should be involved.
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It was agreed to table the issue for further discussion.
Pioneer Park Update
Ms. Fitzgerald said the archaeological digs have been completed; some
remnants of buildings were found and sent on to the state for analysis. No
more public meetings will be held until after the first of the year.
Follow up on skating rink in Lowell Park. other business
Mr. Thomsen was not present, however, Ms. Fitzgerald said she thought a
small skating rink in the parking area near the gazebo was still being
planned.
Mr. Cummings reported that he had been contacted from a representative
of the Hockey Association volunteering to flood the city rinks at night. He
also asked about flooding a rink at Lily Lake as had been discussed last
year. Mr. Peterson asked about the timing of lights and the length of time
lights on left on at night. Mr. Thomsen will be asked to report on these .
items.
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Ms. Fitzgerald said Mr. Thomsen asked for authority to spend the budgeted
$50,000 for park equipment. Mr. Wolff, seconded by Mr. Liehr, moved to
authorize Mr. Thomsen to spend the $50,000 for park equipment.
Park Board iob descriptions
Mr. Melville distributed a list of possible Park Board membership, with
objectives and duties, focusing on what he perceives as problem areas, for
each position. He suggested that two more members be added to the Park
Board to provide three representatives from each Ward. Mr. Cummings
cautioned about enlarging the membership of the Board, noting that often
larger committees are less effective.
The discussion that ensued focused largely on the need for the city to hire
a full-time parks and rec director. Mr. Cummings suggested that revenue
generated by a new sports facility might fund the salary for a parks
director. It also was noted that adoption of the city's updated
Comprehensive Plan should provide validity for a requested parks director
position.
Mr. Melville asked whether it was the Park and Rec Board's responsibility
to draw up a job description and cost-benefit balance sheet to present to
the City Council in requesting such a position. Mr. Cummings said the Park
and Rec Board should make such a recommendation; Mr. Wolff suggested
waiting until the Comprehensive Plan is adopted before raising the issue.
New business
Mr. Junker noted that a number of members' terms expire Jan. 1, 1996 --
Mike Polehna, Rob McGarry, Ken Meister, AI Liehr, David Junker and
Marguerite Rheinberger. Those whose terms expire are to let Mr. Junker
know by the December meeting whether they wish to continue to serve on
the board.
The December meeting will be held Dec. 18. Members are to meet at Lily
Lake Ice Arena at 6:30 p.m. to tour the facility; the meeting will be held at
the Park Building.
Mr. Liehr, seconded by Mr. Junker, moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:30
p.m.; all in favor.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording secretary