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CITY OF STILLWATER
CITY COUNCIL MEETING NO. 04-20
Council Chambers, 216 North Fourth Street
September 7, 2004
REGULAR MEETING
4:30 P.M.
Mayor Kimble called the meeting to order at 4:30 p.m.
Present:
Councilmembers Kriesel, Milbrandt, Rheinberger, Junker and Mayor
Kimble
None
Absent:
Others Present:
City Administrator Hansen
Police Chief Dauffenbach
Director of Administration Knauss
Public Works Director Eckles
Fire Chief Glaser
Community Development Director Russell
Finance Director Harrison
City Clerk Ward
OTHER BUSINESS
Discussion on Community Center
Mr. Mike Pohlena, Parks Board Chair, stated that there is a possibility of obtaining funds
from Ms. Kroc's foundation (McDonald's) for a recreation center. He asked what was
the status of the armory and if Council is still interested in a community center. He
requested authorization to pursue these funds because he only has until the end of
September to apply for the grant.
Mayor Kimble stated that the armory issue is still being pursued.
Councilmember Kriesel stated he is part of a task force investigating this issue and
requested that Mr. Pohlena participate in the task force.
Councilmember Rheinberger stated he likes the concept, however has concerns with
location, cost, operational costs and whether the City can afford a community center.
Council member Milbrandt stated that it would make sense to investigate options and
funding.
Motion by Council member Milbrandt, seconded by Council member Kriesel authorizing Mr.
Pohlena to apply for the Kroc grant for a community center. All in favor.
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Possible approval of raisinq recreation center rates
Mr. Mike Pohlena, Chair of the Parks Board, requested that Council raise the recreation
center rates. He stated that rates have not been raised since the facility was built. He
also stated that the current rates are paying for the operation of the facility but not
paying for the debt service.
Councilmember Milbrandt expressed concern that the school districts have already set
their budgets and suggested that the rates only be raised to those entities that do not
have a contract for 2004.
Motion by Councilmember Rheinberger, seconded by Councilmember Milbrandt to adopt
Resolution 2004-177, approval of rates for the St. Croix Recreation Center effective
immediately, except for contracts already signed (Le. school districts).
Ayes: Councilmembers Kriesel, Milbrandt, Rheinberger, Junker and Mayor Kimble
Nays: None
Discussion on Assessment Policy
Public Works Director Eckles stated that the North Hill project has proved to be a very
difficult area to create an assessment roll that is perceived to be fair and equitable by all
of the residents. He explained that the normal assessment procedure usually works
well when using a "per lot" assessment approach; so every lot gets the same charge for
an equivalent improvement and sometimes staff uses a per front foot method for
streets, while storm sewer is often by area calculation. He explained that challenges to
the typical approaches are where to install services- what lots will subdivide; some large
lots have very small street frontages, while other have high frontages; some vacant lots
appear to be buildable, others do not; it takes much more street length to serve the
estate lot area then urban lot area; some lots have paid previous storm sewer
assessments others have not; and some lots have sewer or water service but no main
and were never assessed. He stated than in an effort to deal with the challenges staff is
proposing some slight modifications to the usual methodology, so that the assessment
roll is not only legal and defendable, but also has the essence of fairness for those folks
being assessed.
Mr. Eckles stated that there is usually an assessment for sewer main, and an
assessment for sewer services, which has been done because sometimes a property
owner wants to add additional services in anticipation of a lot split. He stated that this
approach would be problematic on this project, because some people might not want
the additional charges now, but then would need to tear up the street in the future. He
felt that if staff installs and assesses for an additional service, there is some
presumption that the lot is then buildable (not good assumption in this area due to the
terrain). He stated that staff assessed every inhabited home in the project area and
that gained access to the sewer, a Sanitary sewer assessment. He continued by saying
that rather than make value judgments on whether a lot is buildable, he proposes
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installing service stubs anywhere a new house could potentially be built, but don't
assess for any vacant lots, therefore the vacant lots would pay a hookup charge if and
when a sewer permit is pulled to hook up to the system. He stated the sanitary sewer
is proposed to be $4909.23 per existing house. This is the amount in the feasibility
hearing.
Mr. Eckles stated that water would be treated identical to the sanitary. We would install
services anywhere a new house could potentially be built. Assessments for Water Main
would only be levied where there is an existing house with plumbing and the charge
would be $3408.08 per existing house (as per the feasibility hearing). A hook up fee
would be collected when a permit is pulled to connect to the water system.
Mr. Eckles stated that the street assessment calculation was most difficult. He also
stated that rather than charge based on the "per unit" basis, staff has been using the
"front foot" approach and using frontage methodology generally will yield higher
assessments for larger lots. He continued by saying that because this project has many
odd shaped lots, resulting in a wide range of assessments even for similarly sized lots,
therefore staff used an approach of converting the area of large odd shaped lots into an
equivalent frontage. He explained that using this approach, a 1-acre lot would have an
equivalent frontage of 218', but it would be reduced to the maximum of 180'. Staff used
the same cost per linear foot as the feasibility report: $47.37 per foot, therefore a large
estate lot would have the maximum street assessment of $8,527, while a smaller 80-
foot urban lot would have an assessment of $3,790 for streets. He felt this range had
an equitable balance that gets to the issue of large versus small, as well as having
some relationship to actual cost.
Mr. Eckles stated that staff first proposed a storm sewer assessment of $0.13 per
square foot. On the second draft assessment roll presented at the feasibility hearing,
there was no storm sewer assessment for anybody. This eliminated almost the entire
assessment for the golf course and reduced the typical assessment by $1,000 to
$12,000. He stated that staff has been widely criticized for the low assessment to the
golf course that has resulted from this approach. He stated that as an alternative, staff
is proposing to charge $0.01 per square foot. He continued, this will capture a very
small amount from small lots (on the order of $100), while the large estate lots will see
amounts of $440 per acre. He stated that it allows the City to capture some value from
vacant lots and the golf course. He felt that since vacant lots are paying no street,
sewer or water assessment, a small storm assessment seemed warranted. He also
stated that a very minor storm assessment generates about $20,000 in charges to the
golf course-so at least the 50-acre course will have a higher overall assessment than
the residential properties in the area. He informed the Council that the golf course
would be compensated for some of the easements that are being granted to allow the
project to proceed along the course. He stated that in order to test our approach we
obtained 3 appraisals of representative lots, to compare the proposed assessment to
the estimated increase in market valuation and the appraisals all showed our
assessments to be well less than the estimated market increase.
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Mr. Eckles stated that the attached assessment role incorporates the modified
methodology presented above; it appears to meet the requirements of the assessment
laws, and provide a balanced, fair and equitable assessment distribution. He stated that
using this approach will yield total assessments of $1 ,596,380.37, or approximately 26%
of the total project cost and assuming about 25 potential new lots in the course of future
years, an additional $625,000 would be captured, bringing the total non-subsidized
amount to about $2.2M or 36% of the total project cost. He recommended using the
proposed assessment roll for the purpose of notifying residents of their proposed
assessment.
Councilmember Kriesel expressed concern that at the town meeting there would not be
a storm sewer charge and now there will be.
Councilmember Rheinberger stated that he favored the process and should proceed.
He felt that it met the fairness test, which is an objective standard, and also in principal it
is equitable which is individual fairness. He stated that 28% is real costs and 72% is
being picked up by the public or other methods of funding.
Councilmember Junker asked if the appraisals were based on the unit, but does not
factor in any possible subdivision.
Mr. Eckles stated that the appraisals are just for the single unit, but maybe one of the
persons may want to subdivide.
Councilmember Kriesel felt that staff has done everything possible to make the
assessments as fair as possible.
Motion by Councilmember Rheinberger, seconded by Councilmember Junker to approve the
assessment policy for the North Hill Improvement project. All in favor.
Discussion on Hookup Charaes
Public Works Director Eckles stated because the City is subsidizing a lot of this project,
that as part of the proposed assessment policy for the North Hill project, staff discussed
possible methodologies for collecting assessments or improvement costs for vacant
parcels. He suggested that staff would like to proceed by installing service stubs to any
parcel we feel has any potential of being subdivided, however if this is done and the
property is assessed, the basis of that assessment is that the value of that property goes
up. If the property is not buildable the presumption of an increase in value is dubious.
Mr. Eckles suggested as an alternative to an assessment, city staff has been exploring the
idea of hookup charges because hookup charges would allow the City to eventually collect
cost involved in providing public utilities to these vacant parcels and at the same time, a
hookup charge is not due until a property actually develops. Therefore there is no
pressure on a landowner to sell or develop their property. He stated that the hookup
charge methodology avoids the problem of proving increasing value, it does not force the
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hand of landowners, and it allows the City to set a hookup charge rate that will capture the
cost of providing service.
Mr. Eckles continued saying that in developing the proposed hookup charge, staff went
with the assumption that the City would be less willing to help subsidize newly created
buildable lots and to completely eliminate all of the City subsidy, the City would need to
charge about $30,000 per new lot. He stated that recent developments indicate that the
cost of public utilities runs about $25,000 per lot and based on this data if we charge
$12,500 for a sewer connection and $12,500 for water connection, we would gain $25,000
for every connection. He also stated that procedurally staff recommends charging these
fees every time a new property comes in for a building permit. He recommended that all
properties that directly or indirectly connect onto any of the improvements installed as part
of the North Hill project would be subjected to these charges. He stated that even if a
property owner subdivided a lot that required a short sewer or water extension in order to
gain access to the sewer it is recommended to charge the $25,000. He also suggested
that hookup fees would be adjusted upwards on a yearly basis according to the
construction price index (usually around 2-3%).
Councilmember Rheinberger favored the proposed hookup charges; he felt that the
charge releases any hidden personal premium that the City may have transferred to an
owner at the expense of another taxpayer.
Councilmember Junker asked if the department would work with every resident for the
location of the stubs.
Mr. Eckles stated that staff usually meets with every resident in the field to determine the
best location.
Mayor Kimble stated that he has received many positive remarks regarding Tim Moore's
assistance to the neighbors on this project and asked Mr. Eckles to make sure that Mr.
Moore is aware of his hard work and the satisfactory comments on this project. He has
received many calls complimenting Mr. Eckles, Mr. Sanders and the engineering staff.
Councilmember Milbrandt stated that it should not be assumed that if a property is
stubbed it is a buildable lot, that will be determined at the Planning level.
Motion by Council member Rheinberger, seconded by Councilmember Junker to adopt a policy
requiring hookup fees for all new homes making connection (units that didn't pay for sewer and
water service) to the City's sewer and water system and adopting Resolution 2004-178, setting
fees for sewer and water hookups, in an amount of $12,500 for sanitary sewer and $12,500 for
water. All in favor.
BudQet Discussion
City Administrator Hansen stated that at the 7:00 p.m. meeting staff will ask you to
adopt three resolutions to adopt the proposed budget, tax rate and set the public
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hearing for December 7. He stated that this adoption of resolutions is preliminary and
that the final budget can go down at the December 7 meeting, but cannot be raised. He
provided three options for the tax rate and the impacts on the value of homes. He also
reported that there is a rumor that supposedly a deal has already been cut to trade LGA
monies to education; therefore the City could be cutting budgets like in 2003 because of
loss of LGA.
Mayor Kimble asked if Council would adopt the higher rate, they could always lower it
on December 7.
City Administrator Hansen stated that was correct and that Council also has the ability
to correct something in the budget that Council doesn't like.
Mayor Kimble explained levy limits. He stated that the tax rate is what should be limited
because the City invested in infrastructure, but the City can't capture the taxes with levy
limits. He felt that Council should go with a 0% tax rate increase, but there is the option
to absorb the additional monies into budget from new development that has occurred.
Councilmember Rheinberger favored the midpoint approach because it gives flexibility if
LGA is eliminated, it allows for the replacement of services and allows for catch up
revenue for street repair or equipment replacement, and to take advantage of what
appears to be an economic expansion that would allow residents to absorb the
increase.
Councilmember Kriesel asked if the midpoint was selected and the state did provide
LGA funding could the street lighting fee be eliminated. He stated that the taxpayers
cannot use this fee as a tax reduction on their taxes and it would be better to stick with
traditional tax dollars. He stated the reason the street lighting fee was imposed was
because levy limits could not be raised.
City Administrator Hansen stated that would be a possibility however he stated that if
there are access dollars it may be better to put them in the Capital Projects fund
because Council has indicated they would like to increase that fund 10% per year and
the City's share of the money is not currently there. It would also be cheaper to use tax
dollars rather than bonding and paying interest.
Councilmember Junker stated that the reason taxes will go up is the value of the home,
unfortunately, realization of that does not occur until someone sells their home.
City Administrator Hansen stated that if they wanted to play it safe it would be to levy
the maximum, you can always go down, the middle proposal also has merit. He stated
that in all the years he has prepared budgets he has never budgeted more than what it
would take to operate, however in these uncertain times there should be something.
Mayor Kimble stated if the tax rate remains the same, and with no levy limits the City
can capture dollars to pay for the essential services. He stated that before December
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the Council could reduce it but Council can't raise it and it will allow the Council to see
what happens with the deals the state is making.
Councilmember Rheinberger disagreed with the mayor, because people can't afford it.
Councilmember Milbrandt stated that he is not convinced that staying at zero is where
the Council will end up, however based on the meeting Mr. Hansen had with the League
it is very disturbing that there is a potential of taking away LGA. That would put the City
in a very bad position, but it would buy some time to find out and this is a preliminary
budget being submitted to the County.
Mr. Hansen stated that he hates to see legislative action determine tax policy for the
cities, but it seems that is what it has come to.
STAFF REPORTS
Police Chief Dauffenbach informed the Council of a City Auction that will be held on
October 6,2004 at the Public Works Facility. He also stated that the cities of Bayport
and Oak Park Heights would also be participating in this auction.
Chief Dauffenbach requested permission to donate the department's old bulletproof
vests to State Trooper Issacson who is going to be deployed to Iraq. He stated that
these vests would line vehicles for extra protection.
Motion by Council member Milbrandt, seconded by Council member Rheinberger approving the
donation of the Police Department's old bulletproof vests. All in favor.
Fire Chief Glaser stated that the department would be assisting the Water Department
in the flushing of hydrants this fall. He informed the Council that Fire Prevention Week
is October 3-9 with an Open House at the station on October 9.
Public Works Director Eckles provided an update on the Deerpath project. He stated
that they are waiting for Xcel Energy to move some light poles, however due to the
hurricanes in Florida many of their staff have been sent there to help. The project will
continue once the poles are moved by Xcel.
City Administrator Hansen stated that a joint workshop with Oak Park Heights has been
set for September 22 however the exact time has not been set.
Mayor Kimble recessed the meeting at 5:50 p.m.
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ECESSED MEETING
7:00 P.M.
Mayor Kimble called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Present:
Council members Kriesel, Milbrandt, Rheinberger, Junker and Mayor
Kimble
None
Absent:
Others Present:
City Administrator Hansen
Police Chief Dauffenbach
Public Works Director Eckles
Fire Chief Glaser
Community Development Director Russell
Finance Director Harrison
City Clerk Ward
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Council member Rheinberger, seconded by Councilmember Kriesel to approve the
August 17, 2004 special and regular meeting minutes, August 24 & 31 special meeting
minutes. All in favor.
PETITIONS, INDIVIDUALS, DELEGATIONS & COMMENDATIONS
Proclamation - Constitution Week - September 17-23. 2004
Mayor Kimble proclaimed September 17-23, 2004 Constitution Week.
Tom Koop. Larson. Allen. Weishair & Company
Mr. Tom Koop, provided Council with an overview of the City's financial report. He
commended Sharon Harrison, the Finance Department and the Engineering
Department for their excellent work in preparation for the GASB34 requirement of
assembly of infrastructure information.
Mayor and Council also thanked Ms. Harrison and the Finance Department for their
excellent work.
Veterans Memorial Committee Request
Mr. Dick Olsen, Veterans Memorial Committee, presented information to Council
regarding the expansion and Memorial upgrade and requested approval.
Mayor Kimble stated that the maintenance of the site has been excellent.
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Motion by Council member Rheinberger, seconded by Councilmember Milbrandt to approve the
concept, subject to staff review and approval. All in favor.
OPEN FORUM
There were no public comments
CONSENT AGENDA
Motion by Council member Rheinberger, seconded by Councilmember Milbrandt to approve the
Consent Agenda.
Ayes: Councilmembers Kriesel, Milbrandt, Rheinberger, Junker and Mayor Kimble
Nays: None
Resolution 2004-173, directing payment of bills
Resolution 2004-174, approving 2004 Memorandum of Agreement for Drop-off Center
Recycling Grant Distribution with Washington County
Approving Fiscal Year 2005 Budget - Joint Cable Communications Commission
Resolution 2004-175, approving State Historical Scholarships for HPC members to attend
conference
Approval of donation of holiday lights to Village of Emerald, WI
Approval of utility bill adjustments
Approval of Permit to Sell 3.2 percent malt liquor at Lily Lake Ballfields - Mark Johnson,
applicant
Approval of Temporary On-Sale Liquor License for Church of St. Michael Parish Festival-
October 10, 2004
Approval of request for Fire Prevention Week Signs/Banners
Request for sandwich board sign and spotlights - Washington County Historic Courthouse
- Christmas at the Courthouse
Possible approval of request for outside merchandising - Tires Plus
Approval of banner request - American Diabetes Association
Approval of banner request - Fall Art Fair
Resolution 2004-176, Authorizing City Administrator to Negotiate and Enter Into A Joint
Powers Agreement with the City Of Oak Park Heights to Provide Utility Services
Approval to purchase laptop computer for the Public Works Department
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Case No. SV/04-68. This is the date and time for a public hearinQ to consider a request from
Jessica Lanqe and Josephine Kiel for a street vacation request to vacate the unopened portion
of Third Street North lyinQ between Elm Street on the south (vacated) and Aspen Street on the
North and that portion of Third Street North abuttinq Blocks 4 and 5. of Carli & SchulenberQ's
Addition
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Community Development Director Russell reviewed the street vacation request. He stated that
the Planning Commission denied the request at their last meeting. He also stated that the City
Engineer indicates that no street improvements are planned for this section of North Third due
to lack of need, cost of improvement and environmental condition, but requests that retaining
the right of way for a drainage and utility easement for on possible future need. He also stated
that when the trail plan was prepared this area was considered for future trail improvements
and it was decided against because of topography and lack of trail system connection.
Mayor Kimble opened the public hearing.
Donald Empson, 1206 North Second Street, stated that there were some errors in the
materials he received at the Planning Commission hearing and pointed them out to the
Council. He stated as a Stillwater historian, he is concerned with the future of our city
as well as the past and is speaking against the vacation of Third Street because he
believes vacating the street is against the long-term interest of the public and the city.
He stated that if you go down to the intersection of Main Street and Myrtle Street, and
from there, walk east one block on Myrtle Street toward the river, you will find yourself
no longer on Myrtle Street, but instead on the plaza of the Water Street Inn. He stated
that the reason for this is that in the 1880's there was a very powerful corporation in
Stillwater called Seymour, Sabin & Co, which had much the same position in Stillwater
then-that Andersen Corporation holds in Bayport today. He went on to say that
Seymour, Sabin decided to build a Union Train Depot in downtown Stillwater and they
came to the city and asked them to vacate a part of Myrtle Street on which to build the
depot and in return, Seymour, Sabin promised to add a tower with a clock to the depot,
a clock tower that would sit on the vacated part of Myrtle Street so, residents of the city
walking back and forth on Main Street could just glance down Myrtle Street toward the
river and see the clock tower jutting into what remained of the street, and know what
time it was. He stated that you have to understand that the train was the lifeblood of the
city, just about everything-freight and passengers-that came in or out of the city
traveled by train and very few people at that time had personal timepieces: pocket
watches were still quite expensive. He also stated that the councilmen at the time,
whose names were McComb, Townshend, Lyons, Burke, Kilty, Bronson, Covell, &
Drewer, thought this was a fair trade, and they agreed to vacate this part of Myrtle
Street however, the railroad no longer comes into Stillwater and no longer plays any
role in the daily life of the city, and everyone has three or four personal timepieces, and
the last thing we need is a town clock. The depot is long gone and Seymour, Sabin
went bankrupt in the course of building the train depot and they never did build the clock
tower. It was replaced by Hooley's grocery store, which has now been replaced by the
Lumber Barons Hotel, renamed the Water Street Inn. He stated that he has two points
to this story: 1.) that no one in the 1880's could have anticipated what has happened
since then. He stated that he was sure everyone living then thought the railroads would
be around forever, and never, never could they have guessed the possibility of cheap
digital watches, but the one fact from this time that does remain is the fact that the street
which was given away a century ago is still private property and there is no way the city
can reclaim it. Now it is impossible to know what the future might bring, but once the
street is vacated, it is gone forever. 2.) is that the public streets-like the Third Street in
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question here-are dedicated to the public and felt they are very much like the public
parks. He felt that the city couldn't sell these streets because they don't own them; the
public does. He stated that legally, in order for the city to vacate, or give away, a public
street, they must prove some substantial public good that will result from a street
vacation. He felt that back in the 1880's, the council could justify their decision
because a new train depot and a clock tower would have represented a public good.
However, he does not believe that vacating Third Street to consolidate and combine
Jessica Lange's two estates is really in the public good, or believed that the small
amount of additional taxes that might be realized by converting the street into private
property is sufficient public good to, among other things, close off access to one of the
City's ravines, ravines which he personally regard as a municipal treasure.
Mr. Empson continued by saying that approximately nine years ago, the city council
vacated Elm Street at Ms. Lange's request, and by so doing, expanded her estate by
18,000 square feet, or the equivalent of more than two building lots. He stated that
before the vacation was even formally done, she had Elm street fenced off and she
presently also has Third Street fenced off. He stated that at the time Elm Street was
vacated, the argument was made that Third Street was still available for access to the
ravine and felt that if Third Street is now vacated, a good section of the ravine will be
inaccessible, and Ms. Lange's property will be expanded another 15,000 square feet at
the expense of the public's property.
Mr. Empson stated that based on the history of other large estates in Stillwater there is
a considerable certainty that sooner or later-probably sooner given the 3.3 million
dollar price tag-this 2-1/2 acre estate will be subdivided and developed. He felt there
are more than seven full lots presently in this estate and under the current building
codes and zoning, that means 14 duplexes or double townhouses (that is 28
residences) could be built on this property. He stated that such a development would
dramatically change the character of the North Hill. He continued by saying if the
Council vacates the street, it is facilitating such a development; the Council is adding
enough space for another two duplexes.
He asked if there is presently a good alternative use for the street? He answered
himself by saying perhaps not at the moment, but who can say for the future. He asked
the Council if they remember the Victory Gardens during the Second World War; this
would be wonderful place for such a garden. Maybe someday, the city will be able to
put solar panels on the street and generate electric power for the North Hill, but in the
meantime, why give the property away? The street has been there for 150 years; and
didn't feel that giving it to Ms. Lange was the best purpose for this piece of public
property. He continued, there are a number of these unopened streets-which he calls
Ghost streets-within the city, and as the pressure for development continues, there will
be more and more requests to vacate them. He urged the City Council and the
Planning Commission to develop a consistent policy towards these ghost streets that
would then be incorporated into the Comprehensive Plan. He concluded by saying that
he could not blame Ms. Lange for requesting this street vacation; after all, what has she
got to lose. Just because she requests the vacation does not in any way obligate you to
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give away a piece of public property that belongs to all of us. He requested that Council
agree with the recommendation of the planning commission, who voted against the
vacation by a vote of 7-2.
Mr. Ed Simonet, representing Lange Family Trust and Ms. Kiel the petitioners,
requested Council to reconsider the Planning Commission's decision. He stated that it
has not been pointed out that the City Engineer's indicate that there are no City plans
for a street improvement due to lack of need, cost and environmental condition. He felt
that it was important to understand what the topography looks like. He presented a
picture of the area to the City Council. He stated that they are not talking about a street
that has ever been opened or used and felt that the City is not giving away something.
He stated that the vacation of this street will put it back on the tax rolls and insure that it
is sold as one piece of property rather than two which would hinder any thought of
development of the piece close to the Territorial Prison site. He stated that they have
no problem with the City retaining a drainage and utility easement. He felt it was a
reasonable request and couldn't imagine a street being put in.
Mayor Kimble asked if the City would want to retain an easement for a trail or walkway
would that request be acceptable from his client.
Mr. Simonet stated that he couldn't speak for his client, but if it came to having that
easement rather than not having it at all, he didn't think it would be a problem.
Mr. David "Choc" Junker, 1001 N. 4th Street, stated they don't need or want any walking
paths because it is so steep and there is no reason not to allow the vacation. He stated
that it is not allowed to tear down a home that is over 50 years old so he doesn't feel
someone will tear down the home and build condominiums. He stated that Ms. Kiel also
wants it vacated because it will turn into a nice piece of property and does not feel that
any walking path would work because there is a private driveway and it would end on
Aspen and Third Streets.
Mayor Kimble asked when Council vacated 3rd Street adjacent to Lockquer's because
that was previously platted all the way to Wilkin.
Public Works Director Eckles stated that it was not vacated but Mr. Lockquer's driveway
access is partly on City right-of-way.
Mayor Kimble asked staff to investigate because he thought there was a vacation of a
portion of North 3rd just south of Wilkins. '
Mr. Junker felt that the vacation was important to both the Lange property and Kiel
property because it makes the Lange property one property and Kiel property would
maintain the property as she always had.
Ms. Jo Kiel, petitioner, stated that Jessica Lange will be very particular on who buys her
property. She stated that if the property remains as two parcels that there would be
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building on the second property. She stated that they have taken care of the property
for over 54 years. She felt that the property owned by Ms. Lange should be combined
and sold as one entity. She didn't see any future development of condominiums. She
stated that there is a mixture of modest and expensive homes in the area and it is a
neighbor. She asked Council to understand that Ms. Lange is not the only petitioner
that she is petitioning for this vacation as well.
Ms. Liz Sullivan, 921 N. 4th Street, spoke in favor of the vacation because she doesn't
want to see a walking path. She questioned some of the motives of the people against
the vacation and felt that maybe envy is the motivation. She stated that Ms. Kiel has
been a good neighbor and has been taking care of the property for 54 years and is
being forgotten in this issue. She stated that any proposed path would invade her
privacy as well as the Lange property.
Mr. Del Emerson, 302 W. Elm, spoke in favor of the vacation and would be in the best
interest of the City because it has never been used.
Mr. Bill Fernolz, 202, W. Aspen, is against the vacation because he doesn't think any
land should be given away for free to adjacent owners and to lose public access to any
area of the City. He stated that there is already a fence on the proposed vacation.
Ms. Kiel stated that the fence abuts her property and she requested that fence be
placed where it is.
Mr. Bruce Ehlers, 110 Lakeside Drive, asked why couldn't the City sell the property to
Ms. Lange; he doesn't feel it should be given to any property owner for free. He felt the
property shouldn't be vacated so that the property becomes more valuable.
Mayor Kimble explained that state statutes does not allow the City to sell v~cated
streets that it has to go back to the abutting property owners.
Mayor Kimble closed the public hearing.
Council member Rheinberger stated he was in favor of the vacation because of 150
years of non-use and is in favor of an easement.
Councilmember Junker stated that the topography is not practical for use and there has
been no use in 150 years and spoke in favor of the vacation. He stated that explained
the evolution of McKusick Ravine trail and that no one ever thought that would happen,
but it serves a purpose of drainage to the river, but felt this ravine would not have the
same purpose because it would be a trail that leads nowhere.
Councilmember Kriesel felt it has been used for 150 years because he remembers
playing in the ravine as a child and agreed with Mr. Empson's statement that it may be
used in the future. He favored the planning commission's recommendation.
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Councilmember Milbrandt stated that even though there isn't a current plan for the
property, he didn't feel the City should turn it back to an individual. He saw no public
benefit to vacate the street.
Councilmember Junker stated he would feel better having the property being one
property than two properties.
Councilmember Milbrandt stated there is no guarantee that someone will buy the
property and then come back to the City to subdivide the lot.
Councilmember Kriesel felt that if any property the City should retain it would be this
property. He felt if that doesn't want to be retained then there are other "ghost" streets
that maybe the City should just retain easements and return all of them to the property
owners.
Council member Rheinberger stated that the City hasn't used it for 150 years and there
is a point to let the property owners use it.
Mayor Kimble explained that the streets were laid out on a grid system, did not take into
account the topography and if it were platted today it would not be allowed. He stated
that the law is clear that if the City is not using the "ghost" streets and is not going to be
used it should be vacated. He stated that even Myrtle Street if it were built today, it
would have had to build differently.
Council member Kriesel stated that property is expensive in Stillwater and felt that it
would cost the City more should there be a need to get that property in the future.
Motion by Council member Milbrandt, seconded by Councilmember Kriesel to uphold the
Planning Commission's denial of the street vacation. Motion failed.
Ayes: Council members Kriesel and Milbrandt
Nays: Councilmembers Rheinberger, Junker and Mayor Kimble
Motion by Councilmember Junker, seconded by Councilmember Rheinberger adopting
Resolution 2004-179, approving street vacation subject to retaining drainage, utility and trail
easement.
Ayes: Councilmembers Rheinberger, Junker and Mayor Kimble
Nays: Councilmembers Kriesel and Milbrandt
Mayor Kimble recessed the meeting at 8:30 p.m.
Mayor Kimble reconvened the meeting at 8:38 p.m.
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Case No. DRl04-47. This is the date and time for a public hearina to consider an appeal of the
HeritaQe Preservation Commission's decision on a request from Monty and Terri Brine.
representinQ Cornerstone Gifts. Joanne Brown. for desiQn review of siQnaae located at 450
North Main Street in the CBD. Central Business District.
Community Development Director Russell reviewed the request to reverse the HPC
decision. He stated that the when the building design was originally approved in 1996 a
different sign plan was approved that included an interior directory sign for the uses. He
stated that the building was used mainly for offices. He stated that the current
application is for retail use with different signage needs. He stated that an alternative
would be to have the building owner submit an amended master signage plan for the
building rather than looking at each sign for the building.
Mayor Kimble opened the public hearing.
Mr. Monte Brine, owner of the building, stated that the use has changed from office to
retail. He explained that they took the ground floor and divided it into three suites. He
felt that there would be more office than retail but if the demand were for more retail
economically it would be turned to retail. He stated that the sign requested meets the
requirements of retail store front signage, however because of the agreement in 1995 it
does not meet that agreement, but there was no objection of the sign itself. He stated
that the sign would be placed over the three windows of Corner Stone gifts.
Council member Milbrandt asked what is the time limit on the banner being used.
Mr. Russell stated 30 days.
Councilmember Milbrandt stated he would like to see this issue go back to HPC for a
master sign plan for the entire building that would accommodate retail and let the
temporary sign stay there for 30 more days.
Mayor Kimble stated that if this was designated retail in 1995 the sign would meet the
signage requirements.
Mr. Russell explained the master sign plan for a building.
Mr. Brine stated that any sign has to be approved by HPC.
Mayor Kimble felt that if it is the same kind of sign but the letters change a 60-day
review is too much.
Council member Junker expressed concern that the office part of the building might want
an outside sign.
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Mr. Brine stated that there is a level of common sense and there is only room for three
retail on the lower level, retail would not be on the upper level.
Mayor Kimble closed the public hearing.
Council member Rheinberger stated he is in favor of reversing the HPC denial because
of the changed circumstances.
Mr. Brine stated that they approve building signs, that if it were not something they want
they would not allow it.
Council member Junker stated that there has to be consistency in signage downtown.
He agreed with Councilmember Milbrandt in that he would like it to go back to HPC to
amend the building sign plan.
Motion by Council member Rheinberger, seconded by Councilmember Kriesel to reverse the
HPC decision and granting this sign as subject to the owner/applicant returning to HPC for a
master sign plan for the entire building.
Ayes: Council members Kriesel, Milbrandt, Rheinberger, Junker and Mayor Kimble
Nays: None
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Possible second readinas of "An Ordinance Amendina the Stillwater City Code Chapter 28.
Water Department" and "An Ordinance Amendina the Stillwater City Code Chapter 29
amendina an ordinance relatina to sewer and water hookups".
City Administrator Hansen reviewed the proposed ordinances. He stated that there are
variance processes should a person have a functioning system or hardship.
Councilmember Rheinberger spoke against the ordinance and felt there should be an
exception to the North Hill residents because of extensive costs. He felt that they would
individually apply for the variance and it should be an exception for the North Hill
residents. He wants to give them relief and feels that it will be addressed on its own in
the future.
Councilmembers Junker, Kriesel and Milbrandt felt that the variance process allows for
an exception for hardship or a working system.
Motion by Councilmember Milbrandt, seconded by Council member Junker to adopt Ordinance
No. 947, An Ordinance Amending the Stillwater City Code Chapter 29 amending an ordinance
relating to sewer and water hookups.
Ayes: Council members Kriesel, Milbrandt, Junker and Mayor Kimble
Nays: Councilmember Rheinberger
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City Administrator Hansen stated that the Water Board did not have mandated hookup
and have a resolution asking that this ordinance be created, however he was informed
this afternoon that the ordnance may have to have some Scribner changes because it
may be in conflict with language pertaining to annexation areas.
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Council member Milbrandt asked why there isn't a variance process in this ordinance.
City Administrator Hansen stated that it written in such a manner that it is when sewer is
hooked up.
Councilmember Rheinberger spoke against the ordinance, he felt there should be an
exception to the North Hill residents because of financial ability, and need relief in a
broad sense.
Motion by Council member Milbrandt, seconded by Councilmember Junker to adopt Ordinance
No. 946, An Ordinance Amending the Stillwater City Code Chapter 28, Water Department
Ayes: Councilmembers Kriesel, Milbrandt, Junker and Mayor Kimble
Nays: Council member Rheinberger
NEW BUSINESS
Request for Special Event street closure for demonstration skate board - Laurel Street
Community Development Director reviewed the request. He stated that the request was
before the Parks Board and they did not want to promote skateboards in the park
therefore they suggested that the street closure be referred to the City Council.
Motion by Councilmember Milbrandt, seconded by Council member Junker approving the
closure of Laurel Street, east of 2nd, for the special event request from Graffiti Center. All in
favor.
Possible approval of resolutions settino payable 2005 Truth-in- Taxation Public Hearino,
adoptinq the proposed budoet for the year 2005: adoptinq the proposed tax levy for the
payable Year 2005
City Administrator Hansen reviewed the proposed tax rate information. He provided
Council with three options. He stated that the preliminary budget information should be
adopted by resolution and sent to the County by September 15. He also stated that
Council would have the option of reducing the information before December 7, however
the final budget must be adopted in December. He stated that the Truth in Taxation
hearing would be held at the December 7 meeting.
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Councilmember Milbrandt stated that because of the possibility of losing LGA to set the
preliminary budget levy be set at 51.951 where it is this year. He stated that Council
could reduce it in December.
Council member Rheinberger again reaffirmed his statement it allows for the
replacement of services and allows for catch up revenue for street repair or equipment
replacement, and to take advantage of what appears to be an economic expansion that
would allow residents to absorb the increase. He felt that it would be an 11 % rise in
people's taxes and felt it was extremely excessive.
Councilmember Junker stated that it is the same tax rate as last year. He stated that
the City is not changing their tax rate.
Councilmember Kriesel stated that he would like to see the street lighting fee repealed,
and he felt that it should be submitted as Council member Milbrandt states and Council
can reduce it in December.
Motion by Council member Milbrandt, seconded by Council member Junker adopt Resolution
2004-180, setting payable 2005 Truth-n-Taxation Public Hearing.
Ayes: Councilmembers Kriesel, Milbrandt, Rheinberger, Junker and Mayor Kimble
Nays: None
Motion by Councilmember Milbrandt, seconded by Councilmember Junker to adopt
Resolution 2004-181, adopting the proposed tax levy for the payable Year 2005.
Ayes: Councilmembers Kriesel, Milbrandt, Junker and Mayor Kimble
Nays: Councilmember Rheinberger
Motion by Councilmember Junker, seconded by Councilmember Milbrandt to adopt
Resolution 2004-182, adopting the proposed budget for the year 2005.
Ayes: Councilmembers Kriesel, Milbrandt, Junker and Mayor Kimble
Nays: Councilmember Rheinberger
Possible acceptance of bids and awarding contract for North Hill Improvements Phase III
Public Works Director Eckles reviewed the bids for the North Hill Improvements Phase
III Project. He stated that the low bidder was Arcon Construction, the current contractor
on the project for Phase II. He stated that because it is the same contractor, the starting
of Phase III would be earlier than anticipated. He recommended that Council award the
project to Arcon for their bid of $1,808,500.36, which was less than the Engineer's
Estimate of $2, 200,000.00.
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Motion by Council member Rheinberger, seconded by Councilmember Junker to adopt
Resolution 2004-183, accepting bids and awarding contract for North Hill Sewer Project,
Phase 3 (Project 2000-15).
Ayes: Councilmembers Kriesel, Milbrandt, Rheinberger, Junker and Mayor Kimble
Nays: None
Possible purchase of land for Brown's Creek Park/Natural Area Expansion
Community Development Director Russell stated that Council directed staff to continue
working on the purchases of land for Brown's Creek Park/Natural Area Expansion. He
stated that a survey of the site and wetlands designation has been prepared to establish
a specific property boundary. He also stated that the parcel proposed to be purchased
include a 15-foot non-wetland street on the east side of the property to accommodate a
nature trail. He stated that the terms of the purchase is $160,000 paid over three years
with installments of $75,000 the first year, $50,000 the second year and $35, 000 the
third year.
Motion by Councilmember Rheinberger, seconded by Councilmember Milbrandt adopting
Resolution 2004-184, authorizing the purchase of land for Brown's Creek Park/Natural Area
Expansion.
Ayes: Councilmembers Kriesel, Milbrandt, Rheinberger, Junker and Mayor Kimble
Nays: None
Possible approval of temporary easement aareement for Lift Bridoe Repair Proiect
Public Works Director Eckles reviewed the documentation for a temporary easement
agreement with the State of Minnesota for the Lift Bridge Repair Project. He stated that
the State will pay the City $112,100 for the three year period.
Councilmember Milbrandt asked that staff send a letter with the agreement that the City
reserves the right to discuss the use by volunteer organizations during Lumberjack
Days.
Mr. Eckles stated that there was a concern raised by Council that this property may be
used for other projects and that Mn/DOT has stated that they will write a letter stating
that this land would only be used for the bridge project and he will contact them about
the use of land by volunteers during Lumberjack Days.
Motion by Council member Rheinberger, seconded by Council member Milbrandt to adopt
Resolution 2004-185, approval of temporary easement agreement for Lift Bridge Repair
Project and directed staff to send a letter with the agreement that the City reserves the right to
discuss the use by volunteer organizations during Lumberjack Days and that the land would
only be used for the bridge project.
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Ayes: Councilmembers Kriesel, Milbrandt, Rheinberger, Junker and Mayor Kimble
Nays: None
Set a Special Meetinq date for Joint Council meetinq with the City of Oak Park Heiahts
Mayor Kimble reviewed the memo by City Clerk Ward for a joint workshop with the City
of Oak Park Heights City Council to discuss the Cut and Cover concept.
City Administrator Hansen informed the Council that the date of September 22, 2004
has been set but the time of the meeting has not and should know by Thursday so that
publication of the special meeting can be done.
Motion by Councilmember Rheinberger, seconded by Councilmember Milbrandt setting a
special meeting date of September 22, 2004 for a joint workshop with the Oak Park Heights
City Council with staff coordinate the time with Oak Park Heights. All in favor.
STAFF REPORTS (continued)
City Administrator Hansen stated that staff is getting ready for the second bond sale for
the Terra Springs project and the attorneys found a mistake in the agreement that
stated that they would start the Phase II project no later than August 1. They are
requesting that date be waived and establish a new deadline of October 1, 2004.
Motion by Council member Rheinberger, seconded by Council member Junker to adopt
Resolution 2004-186, approving the date change for Phase II of the Terra Springs Project.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Councilmember Kriesel, seconded by Councilmember Rheinberger to adjourn at
9:37 p.m. All in favor.
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Diane F. Ward, City Clerk
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Resolution 2004-173, directing payment of bills
Resolution 2004-174, approving 2004 Memorandum of Agreement for Drop-off Center
Recycling Grant Distribution with Washington County
Resolution 2004-175, approving State Historical Scholarships for HPC members to attend
conference
Resolution 2004-176, Authorizing City Administrator to Negotiate and Enter Into A Joint
Powers Agreement with the City Of Oak Park Heights to Provide Utility Services
Resolution 2004-177, approval rates for the St. Croix Recreation Center
Resolution 2004-178, setting fees for sewer and water hookups,
Resolution 2004-179, approving street vacation
Resolution 2004-180, setting payable 2005 Truth-n-Taxation Public Hearing.
Resolution 2004-181, adopting the proposed tax levy for the payable Year 2005.
Resolution 2004-182, adopting the proposed budget for the year 2005.
Resolution 2004-183, accepting bids and awarding contract for North Hill Sewer Project,
Phase 3 (Project 2000-15).
Resolution 2004-184, authorizing the purchase of land for Brown's Creek Park/Natural
Area Expansion.
Resolution 2004-185, approval of temporary easement agreement for Lift Bridge Repair
Project
Resolution 2004-186, approving date change for Phase II of the Terra Springs Project
Ordinance No. 946, An Ordinance Amending the Stillwater City Code Chapter 28, Water
Department
Ordinance No. 947, An Ordinance Amending the Stillwater City Code Chapter 29
amending an ordinance relating to sewer and water hookups.
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