HomeMy WebLinkAbout2000-02-17 Joint Board MINStillwater City/Township Joint Planning Board
February 17, 2000
Present for Stillwater Township: Supervisor David Johnson and Supervisor Louise Bergeron
Present for City of Stillwater. Mayor Jay Kimble and Council Member Terry Zoller
Others: Town Planner Meg McMonigal, Community Development Director Steve Russell,
Township Attorney Tom Scott and City Attorney David Magnuson
Chairman Johnson called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of a6e? nda: Mr. Johnson noted this is the first meeting of the new year, when election of
officers is held, and requested adding that to the agenda. Ms. McMonigal noted approval of
minutes should be added to the agenda. Ms. Bergeron, seconded by Mr. Zoller, approved the
agenda as amended.
Election of officers: Mr. Zoller, seconded by Ms. Bergeron, nominated Mr. Johnson as chair;
motion passed unanimously. Ms. Bergeron, seconded by Mr. Zoller, nominated Mr. Kimble as
vice chair; motion passed unanimously.
Approval of minutes: Mr. Zoller, seconded by Ms. Bergeron, moved approval of the minutes of
Sept. 1, 1999; all in favor.
Case No. ZAT/99-1 - Tree ordinance amerQbiftP-006
Mr. Russell provided a brief overview of the process of amending the ordinance, which was first
initiated in 1998. Stillwater Forester Kathy Widin said the City had received a lot of comments
during the process. She said she thought the amendment as it now stands works well for the City,
is less restrictive than previous proposals, and is limited only to projects that require
development permits.
Mr. Johnson opened the public hearing.
Don McKenzie, 12620 72"a Street, provided a handout of suggested changes. His primary points
of contention were: 3)d the definition of major development as five acres or more, preferring a
change to 25 acres; 3)I, defining significant trees as measuring at least 6" in diameter, preferring
7"; 4)d limiting reduction of the tree canopy to 35 percent, preferring 40 percent; 6)a and 6)b,
both of which referred to 30 percent canopy removal; and 7)a oak wilt, suggesting a dollar limit
be placed on the cost to an individual as oak wilt is a community issue.
Ed Otis, 12070 87t1i St. Circle suggested defining major development in terms of units, perhaps 5
units, rather than in terms of acres. Regarding 4)b, he said the language suggests that planting
lawns might not be allowed. He also referred to the inconsistency of the 30 percent figure in 6)a
and 6)b. He also suggested changes in the standards regarding oak wilt, suggesting the City is
passing the problem on to residents. He further suggested that the language in the subdivision
regarding vegetation alterations ravines, bluffs and slopes of greater than 24 percent be clarified
- would someone be allowed to mow their lawn?
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A letter from Leah Peterson, was included in the packet.
Ms. Widin responded to the comments. She noted that the 6" diameter definition of significant
trees is in the City's existing ordinance and was used as the standard for the Legends and Liberty
developments. Regarding the 35 percent threshold for the removal of the tree canopy, she said
the City's current ordinance allows up to 50 percent removal; the task force recommended
setting the threshold at 30 percent, and the City Council changed that to 35 percent. She said the
original draft was more restrictive and included penalties and fees; she said she thought 35
percent represented a reasonable compromise. She agreed that the language in 4)d should be
clarified somewhat. Regarding the comments on oak wilt, Ms. Widin agreed that in some
circumstances the proposed measures could be cost prohibitive; she noted that cost sharing funds
are available from the DNR.
When the discussion was brought back to the Board, Mr. Russell agreed that a number of Mr.
McKenzie's suggested wording changes, dealing with semantics issues, would be appropriate.
The Board then addressed the major issues raised during the public hearing.
• Definition of major development: Mr. Johnson stated he preferred using units rather than
acres as depending on topography or the type of development, it does not take many acres to
have a major environmental impact. Mr. Russell noted that the suggested five acres would
equate to about 10 units, using the lowest development density. Mr. Johnson suggested using
15 units and more as the definition.. MiQQ0,%V09§aid the City would be comfortable with that
number, the number which triggers when a professional forester must prepare a tree
protection plan. It was the consensus to use the 15 unit definition.
• Definition of significant trees: Mr. Zoller said he thought the 6" definition should be kept, as
that is the standard across the metropolitan area. Mr. Russell also noted that standard is used
in DNR regulations. It was the consensus to leave the 6" definition.
• 35 percent canopy removal threshold. Ms. Bergeron stated that figure was acceptable to her.
Mr. Zoller noted that is the compromise figure arrived at after numerous
discussions/hearings. The consensus was to leave the figure at 35 percent.
• Oak wilt: Mr. Johnson noted the Township participates in the DNR grant program which
pays up to 50 percent for individual property owners to deal with the disease. He noted that
there is significant developable land in the Township and said the Township will be happy to
assist if possible. Mr. Magnuson said the first step the City should undertake is having Ms.
Widin do a survey of diseased trees. Mr. Zoller noted that the City had a Dutch elm disease
fund to assist property owners in dealing with that disease, and historically has been sensitive
to such issues; he said any problems should be addressed on a case-by-case basis. Mr.
Kimble suggested adding the word "reasonable" in 7)a.
• Clarification of language in 4)d: Ms. Widin suggested language such as "this would not
prohibit lawn installation" or "desirable plant material could include lawns." It was agreed
such language would be appropriate.
Following the board discussion, Mr. Johnson and Ms. Bergeron agreed the City could proceed
with adoption of the ordinance amendment with the changes agreed upon by the Joint Board, as
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long as no additional substantive changes are made. If any changes, other than semantics are
made, the ordinance would have to be brought back before the Joint Board. Ms. Kimble,
seconded by Ms. Bergeron, moved approval of the ordinance with the changes recommended by
the Joint Board; motion passed unanimously.
Cases ZAM19904, SUB/99-51 and SUB/99-52 MsKenzie, Thron rezoning and subdivisions.
Mr. Russell noted the properties in question were originally ghost platted by the Township. The
request is implementing the Township platting and is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan.
No comments were receiving during the public hearing. Mr. Kimble, seconded by Ms. Bergeron,
moved approval as conditioned; all in favor.
Discussion of Phase IV area annexation requests
Mr. Russell briefly reviewed his memo and the memo from City Engineer Klayton Eckles
outlining the issues - the lack of water/sewer services, the need for feasibility studies,
requirement for Comp Plan amendments, need for planning for the entire Phase IV area, etc. Mr.
Russell said the City has a specific request from Bruggeman Homes for annexation for a 14-acre
site between Boutwell and County Road 12. Ms. McMonigal asked if the City could undertake a
Phase IV study at this time; City representatives said not at this time with current staff and
funding.
Mr. Johnson said one thing clearly identifi@WUM@Urderly Annexation Agreement is allowing
township residents the flexibility to choose when to be annexed and the opportunity for early
annexation if desired. He said he would have trouble stepping back to look at all of Phase IV and
how it would look in 2015 (when annexation is scheduled to occur according to the Agreement).
He said he hoped the City would consider early annexation requests in a timely manner and in
areas when the demand is greatest. Mr. Kimble said the City does not want to commit staff time
to development areas on a wily-nily basis, and he said the City doesn't want to accept all
requests because it can't. Also, Mr. Zoller and Mr. Kimble noted the City does not want to
become involved in an adversarial position with the Township if it does consider early
annexations, as it was with the Bergmann property. Ms. Bergeron suggested the City knows
which requests have merit and makes sense for the City. The City should make that decision and
then present the information to the Township. Ms. McMonigal suggested using criteria such as
contiguity to the City, the ability to easily connect to services, etc. Mr. Scott said the issue of
whether property owners come into the City or not is up to the City and individual property
owners; the Township's concern is with Comprehensive Plan amendments and densities.
Kevin vonRiedel of Bruggeman Homes briefly reviewed a preliminary concept plan for the 14
acres between Boutwell and County Road 12, including a possible street alignment and locations
for connection with services. The property is by the City surrounded by three sides. Three
property owners are interested in selling, he said in requesting that consideration be given to
early annexation. The proposal is for a development of about 30 single-family lots. Bruggeman
Homes also has offered to assist the City with the necessary feasibility studies/planning.
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Mr. Otis suggested the previous problem with early annexation was due to use. He said he didn't
think this proposal would be objectionable.
Mr. Zoller said the City thinks it is best plan to plan for the entire area, not just 14 acres. Mr.
Russell said the first step is getting the plan and then implementing the plan through annexation.
Ms. Bergeron agreed that is does make sense to look at the larger area. Mr. Johnson concluded
that he agrees with the City's position to take a broader look at the area and allow the Township
the opportunity to participate in the discussion, but he also said the City should respect the
Orderly Annexation Agreement that states property owners are not restricted to a specific
timeframe, that "reasonable consideration will be given" to early annexation requests. Mr.
Johnson said he would be comfortable with an approach that looks beyond the 14-acre parcel to
some other logical, larger area. Mr. Johnson said he and Ms. Bergeron would bring the issue
back to the Town Board and would have a more solidified position after that discussion.
Phase II expansion area development update
Three representatives from U. S. Homes/Orrin Thompson were on hand to communicate the fact
that the developers are moving ahead with plans. A preliminary concept was shown. The
development of some 350 housing units, will include townhomes on the Rivard property, a
change from original plans that had the townhomes on a portion of the Abramowitz property.
The development also will include the City's Brown's Creek Nature Reserve. The developer's
representatives said topography and soil PAM_Q@Q6rently is being done. The hope is to have
plans submitted to allow for construction to begin sometime this summer.
Mr. Scott questioned whether the change in location of the townhomes would require a
Comprehensive Plan amendment as it does represent a change in the guide map. Mr. Scott said
given the developers timeframe, that may be an issue as to when the Township gets involved.
Mr. Kimble suggested directing legal staff to look into that issue.
Ed Otis expressed a concern about the location of the townhomes, asking if County Road 15
would become "townhome row" in the future. Mr. Kimble addressed Mr. Otis's comments.
Update on City search for public works/fire station site
Mr. Russell said the City currently is looking at a site on Boutwell Road just east of County
Road 15, near land the Township owns for a possible future park location. Mr. Johnson advised
that if the City does pursue the acquisition and development for the public works/fire station, it
does so before the adjacent neighborhood is established. He said he would relay the information
to the Town Board for their input.
Update on village commercial development at CR 15/12
A copy of the request for proposals was included in the agenda packet. Paula Kroening of
Newman Realty told the Board the RFPs are due March 15. Mr. Russell suggested that Peter
Calthorpe, who recently conducted the Smart Growth studies for the Metropolitan Council,
would be an excellent resource person for the design of that development. He suggested the
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possibility of working with the Kroenings to get some grant money to allow for Calthorpe's
consultation.
Update on Brown's Creek Park and Natural Area
Mr. Russell said the City had received a greenways grant, as well as a$50,000 grant from the
Margaret Rivers Fund and donations from the two local Rotary Clubs for land acquisition and
park improvements. 27 acres of the area is owned by U. S. Homes and that company is aware of
the City's intent in purchasing the property. Mr. Magnuson asked whether the Township would
have any objections to the City's annexing the area, now that it owns all the property. Mr.
Johnson suggested sending a letter to the Town Board, and neither Township representative
thought there would be any problem.
Mr. Russell said the City is sending a letter to Washington County asking that the County either
donate or allow the use for park purposes of a 4.6 acre parcel of county-owned property in the
Brown's Creek area Mr. Russell asked that the Joint Board consider sending a similar letter.
Mr. Johnson suggested that the Joint Board request that the County donate the parcel for park
use, rather than just allow its use. Ms. Bergeron, seconded by Mr. Zoller, made that in the form
of a motion. Mr. Johnson will forward a letter indicating the Joint Board's position for Mr.
Russell to send to County Commissioner Wally Abrahamson.
06/01 /2006
Report on building permits issued in the annexation area
The report was included in the agenda packet for the Board's information.
Other items:
Mr. Johnson informed the Board that Ms. McMonigal's firms in involved with the developers of
the Phase 2 properties. Due to a concern about a potential conflict of interest, Ms. McMonigal
has spoken with another planner, Dean Johnson who works with several communities in
Washington County, to serve as her replacement at this time. Mr. Johnson said the Town Board
has concurred with Ms. McMonigal's recommendation and the Joint Board did likewise.
Mr. Bergeron, seconded by Mr. Zoller, moved to adjourn at 10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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