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Stillwater Gazette, July 20, 2005
Meeting Notice
Stillwater City and Town Joint Board
City Council Chambers
216 North Fourth Street
Stillwater MN 55082
7 p.m.
Wednesday, July 27, 2005
Agenda
Review of Phase Three Expansion Area Development.
A. Palmer Farm Development
t Millbrook. Residential Development (170 Acres, 269 housing
units)
2 School Development (17 acres, 100,00 square foot school). St
Croix Preparatory Academy, applicant
A) Small Lot Single Family Development (NW comer of McKusix s
Road and Neal Avenue). Rick Carlson, applicant.
B) Other Items
A) update traffic impact fee
B) Housing:permits issued 2004
C) AUAR Update
D) Comp Plan Amendment (7owflhottse Reeideniial
Single Family) `
1E) /Agrivultoral Preseryatkma Study
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Stillwater City and Town Joint Board
July 27, 2005
Present: Township representatives David Johnson and Linda Countryman
City representatives Jay Kimble and David Junker
Others: City Attorney David Magnuson and Community Development Director Steve Russell
Chair David Johnson called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
There were no changes or additions to the agenda.
Review of Phase Three Expansion Area development:
Millbrook development — Mr. Russell gave a brief overview of the project. The 170 -acre
Millbrook development, the former Palmer property, is in the Phase 3 annexation area and could
have been annexed as early as 2002. The six acres at the corner of Highway 96 and County Road
15 are not part of the development. Primary access to the development will be off Highway 96,
with a secondary access from Neal Avenue. The site includes two protected natural resources —
Brown's Creek and South Twin Lake, which will require DNR approval. He noted that the City' s
Planning Commission held four meetings to discuss the proposal and the Park and Recreation
Board two meetings. Both bodies have given concept approval with conditions. One of the
continuing issues for discussion is the amount of park dedication, he said. If the Joint Board
gives its approval, there will be further reviews of the plan specifics. It is the function of the Joint
Board to determine whether the proposal i066511/00 E'nt with the City' s Comprehensive Plan and
the City /Town Orderly Annexation Agreement, he said.
Present representing the developer were Jay Liberacki, US Homes, and Phil Carlson, Dahlgren
Shardlow and Uban consultants. Mr. Carlson briefly reviewed the site plan and proposed land
uses. The proposal calls for 269 units — 96 single family attached with a density of about 6
units /acre, 71 single family small lot with a density of about 4 units /acre, and 102 single family
large lot with a density of about two units /acre. He also reviewed the proposed park dedication
and trail connections, which includes a "deer path" trail along the south side of South Twin Lake.
He noted that due to the topography, the trail along South Twin Lake could not be an 8' -wide
bituminous trail, but would have to be narrower and more natural. Mr. Carlson also showed
elevations of several of the housing products. He summed up his comments by saying he thought
the plan responds to the natural features of the site and keeps within the basic densities /land uses
agreed to by the City and Township.
Mr. Johnson opened the discussion by noting that while this was not a public hearing and was
intended to be a discussion at the Joint Board level, brief comments would be received from the
audience.
Ms. Countryman said at a previous Planning Commission meeting, she had heard a concern
about the adequacy of parking. Mr. Carlson said that concern had to do with on- street parking by
the town house units and the public park. He said he thought the plan provides for more than
adequate on- street parking, noting that plan provides for 1.5 spaces per town house unit, while
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the City only requires .25 spaces per unit. He also noted the City could add a parking lot at the
public park is use justifies that at a later time.
Mr. Junker pointed out that the Planning Commission had recommended concept approval with
nine conditions. The three major conditions had to do with parking, the size of the public park
and the trail along South Twin Lake, and he said those are still items for discussion. Mr. Carlson
said the developer will meet the condition regarding park dedication; however, at this point, the
exact location of the additional parkland hasn't been determined. Regarding parking, Mr.
Carlson said the developer has met all the City's requirements and he questioned whether the
developer should be responsible for providing parking for the public park. Regarding the trail
along South Twin Lake, Mr. Carlson said those who had walked the site, including the City' s
environmental consultant, said the trail should not be a clear -cut trail. Mr. Johnson asked if the
trail would only be able to accommodate people walking single -file. Mr. Russell said the trail
would be a natural surface and fit in with the natural character of the area.
Mr. Johnson agreed with the desire for active use park area. Mr. Russell noted there is a
possibility for a neighborhood park in the southeast quadrant of the site, saying it would be
difficult to expand the park use at the primary location. Mr. Kimble noted that the City can
monitor those requirements; the Joint Board is to determine whether the proposal is consistent
with the Comprehensive Plan's land use.
06/01/2006
Mr. Johnson informed the Board that the Township had reacted to a desire to limit use of South
Twin Lake to non - motorized use only, had held public hearings and adopted a resolution to that
effect. Mr. Russell noted that the City's Planning Commission and Park Board support that
position, but the lake is not in the City's jurisdiction at this time. Mr. Carlson and Mr. Liberacki
said the developer would support limiting use to non - motorized use only. It was consensus that
the Township should move forward with the issue by contacting the DNR; the City will support
the Town's position.
Mr. Johnson invited public comment.
Ruth Bruns, 8790 Neal Ave., asked about hunting on South Twin Lake. Mr. Johnson pointed out
the Joint Board has no authority in that matter; that is a question for the DNR.
Ed Otis, 12070 N. 87th St. Circle, Stillwater Township, suggested the Board should not be
looking at the Millbrook development without considering the cumulative effect of other
proposed developments in the immediate area, specifically the possibility of a school at Highway
96 and County Road 15 and development of the property at McKusick Road and Neal Avenue.
He expressed concerns about traffic, public safety access and the amount of land that is really
accessible to the public in the Millbrook proposal. He said he was opposed to the trail crossing
Brown's Creek as proposed and suggested that an environmental study be done for the whole
area.
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Discussion was brought back to the Board. Mr. Junker stated he had been involved in previous
discussions with the Millbrook developers as a member of the City Planning Commission. While
there are still a lot of details to be worked out, he said he would be in favor of approving the
proposal as being consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and Orderly Annexation Agreement.
Mr. Johnson said he had been involved with discussions from the initial concept plan to what the
plan has evolved into at this point and said he was appreciative of the developer's listening to the
concerns of the Township and City. While he said he was initially concerned with moving the
location of the town houses, he said he understood the reasoning for the change in location and is
comfortable with the concept as proposed. Mr. Johnson noted that it is not the Joint Board's
responsibility to address the details of the plan and said he felt the details will be addressed as the
plan moves through the remainder of the process. Mr. Johnson said he thought adding perimeter
lots was a big improvement along County Road 15, and he also said he liked the proposed traffic
round - abouts and would encourage other traffic diversion efforts, especially in the southeast
quadrant.
Ms. Countryman also said she thought the developer has tried to respond to concerns. She asked
whether a parking lot for the public park, if necessary, would cut into the percentage of park
dedication. Mr. Junker noted that the Planning Commission has "dug in its heels" about several
conditions, including park dedication, and would address that issue.
Mr. Kimble moved to find the Millbrook proposal consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and
Orderly Annexation Agreement. Mr. Junker seconded the motion; motion passed 4 -0.
06/01/2006
Small lot, single family development at McKusick and Neal Avenue, Rich Carlson, applicant.
Mr. Russell noted this site is in the Phase 4 annexation area and the owner would need to petition
for early annexation. He said the proposal has not gone through the scrutiny that the Millbrook
plan has. He said the Planning Commission had reviewed the proposal and recommended that
the City consider annexation and look more closely at proposed lot sizes. He said it is likely lot
sizes will increase from what is initially proposed. He said utilities need to go through this site to
get to the Millbrook development, so it is natural to develop this site in conjunction with the
Millbrook project.
Mr. Kimble asked if approving this request would have any impact on other Phase 4 requests.
Mr. Russell responded that this would not affect the Boutwell South properties, but other areas
could petition for annexation. Attorney Magnuson suggested that approval might put the City in
a "political bind" and make it more difficult to deny other early annexation requests in the future.
However, Mr. Magnuson noted this request could be distinguished from others due to its impact
on the Millbrook plan; he agreed this request would not impact the Boutwell South area.
Tim Freeman was present representing the applicant. He said the City's desire to bring utilities
through the property is what sparked the interest in development. He said it makes sense not to
have to go through the condemnation process and noted that 17 lots, as initially proposed, will
not have the same impact as the Millbrook development. He also noted there is a proposed trail
connection to the Millbrook property, and he said it makes sense to do that trail corridor when
the area is dug up for installation of utilities.
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Mr. Russell noted the proposal will have to go back to the Planning Commission should the Joint
Board approve the concept. Mr. Johnson said he thought the proposal makes sense and said he
didn't see any problem with the Orderly Annexation Agreement, pointing out the Orderly
Annexation Agreement was respectful of property owners' rights and allows early annexation of
Phase 4 properties when appropriate. Mr. Kimble noted that the proposal would have to go back
to the City's Planning Commission and Park Board before returning to the Joint Board for final
approval. It was consensus of the Board to approve the proposal in concept. Mr. Magnuson said
he thought that was adequate direction at this point in the process. Mr. Johnson referred to the
earlier discussion with the Millbrook developers and suggested that this applicant consider
coordinating park plans with the Millbrook people and noted the preference for active park use.
Mr. Kimble left at 8:40 p.m.
Other items:
1. Mr. Russell and Mr. Magnuson highlighted the City's newly adopted transportation adequacy
fee.
2. An update of expansion area building permits was included in the agenda packet. Mr. Russell
said 40 permits had been issued this year as of June. He said there is a buffer of over 200
permits and within the limit of the Orderly Annexation Agreement.
3. Mr. Russell said the City is in the process of updating its AUAR. He said the update will be
completed before the preliminary plat faeditagElos rook development is submitted.
4. Mr. Russell said the City is considering a possible amendment to the Comprehensive Plan to
change the zoning of a parcel of property along McKusick Road from attached single- family
to large lot single family. He noted that the City has exceeded its goals for high density
housing with recent developments in the downtown area. Board members suggested most
people would likely prefer the change in zoning, although Mr. Johnson suggested the
possibility of keeping at least a portion of the site as attached single - family. The City' s
Planning Commission will initiate any change.
5. Mr. Russell said the City Planning Commission currently is studying the Agricultural
Preservation zoning designation. He said the issue arose due to several rezoning requests —
one on Mid Oaks and another on 62nd Street. He noted the AP designation was intended as a
holding pattern following the Orderly Annexation Agreement. Mr. Johnson suggested that if
the financial consideration initially given to properties in the annexation area had been
phased out, the City could move to changing the zoning to that shown in the Comprehensive
Plan.
Ms. Countryman, seconded by Mr. Junker, moved to adjourn at 9:25 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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