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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
September 27, 2023
REGULAR MEETING
7:00 P.M.
Chairman Dybvig called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Present: Chairman Dybvig, Commissioners Cox, North, Steinwall, Councilmember Odebrecht
Absent: Commissioners Hoffman and Swanson
Staff: Community Development Director Gladhill, Planning Manager Gutknecht
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Possible approval of minutes of August 23, 2023 regular meeting
Motion by Commissioner Cox, seconded by Commissioner Steinwall, to approve the minutes of the
August 23, 2023 meeting. All in favor.
OPEN FORUM
There were no public comments.
CONSENT AGENDA
There were no items on the Consent Agenda.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
There was no unfinished business.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Case No. CD 2023-54: Variance to Impervious Surface for the construction of an accessory
building Cdetached garage) at 617 Wilkins Street
Assistant Planner Gutknecht explained that the applicant, Bryce Hanson and representative,
Dion Langness are seeking a Variance to construct a 576 square foot accessory structure,
increasing the total structural impervious coverage to 25.4%. The 6,339 square foot residential
lot contains a one and a half story single-family dwelling built in 1876 and currently has an
outdoor parking area with no garage. As outlined by the landowner, they would like to have a
larger garage to accommodate a larger vehicle needed for his work, which does not satisfy the
practical difficulty requirements. There is enough area for a garage, albeit smaller than the one
proposed. Staff recommends denial of this request.
Donette (no last name given), Bryce's stepmom, argued that the proposal meets the practical
difficulty requirement because the lot is nonconforming, being less than 7,500 square feet. The
request is reasonable because they have offered alternatives of removing some of the gravel,
reducing the impervious surface, and adding gutters to direct drainage away from the
stormwater system. The practical difficulty is not the fault of the owner, as Mr. Hanson did not
zone the lot nor choose the lot size, but it feels like he is being slighted because of it.
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Dion Langness stated that the vehicle is what he considers a normal crew sized pickup truck.
Councilmember Odebrecht remarked lots throughout the City have the same challenge. The
Commission cannot bend that rule for everyone.
Donette pointed out that State Statutes provide a window for cases like this where they are
looking for .4% and will improve drainage and runoff. Statute says such a Variance can be
granted with conditions such as they have suggested.
Chairman Dybvig opened the public hearing.
Adam Frederick, 1005 Williams Street North, noted the previous owner compacted the gravel
driveway almost annually, so he feels construction of the garage will not negatively impact the
property and he has no problem with the garage proposal.
Chairman Dybvig closed the public hearing.
Planning Manager Gutknecht stated the outbuilding shown on aerial photos is part of the
structural impervious surface so removing that would decrease the total.
Mr. Gladhill, answering a question about the accuracy of the property lines, stated they are
accurate within a foot or two but are not survey grade. If the applicant feels the outbuildings
shown on aerial photos are partially on his property, he could consult the neighbor about
possibly removing them to reduce the impervious surface coverage.
Motion by Commissioner Steinwall, seconded by Councilmember Odebrecht, to approve Case No.
CD 2023-54, Variance impervious surface to permit construction of the garage as proposed by the
applicant.
Councilmember Odebrecht agreed with the motion but wanted to be clear that the lot lines
themselves do not create a practical difficulty.
Chairman Dybvig stated approving the Variance could lead to similar requests. He looked up
the truck dimensions and determined they could still build the garage 22 feet long and
accommodate the truck. He feels there is no practical difficulty.
Councilmember Odebrecht explained to the homeowner that the Commission's job is to act like
a quasi judicial committee to interpret the rules that have already been created for the City.
Chairman Dybvig pointed out that if one of the outbuildings is identified as being on this
property, the applicant may be able to build the garage as proposed and reviewed by staff,
without going over the coverage amount.
Mr. Gladhill added that staff would be able to work within the 60 day clock.
Commissioner Steinwall withdrew her motion to approve the Variance.
Motion by Commissioner Steinwall, seconded by Commissioner North, to table Case No. CD 2023-
54, Variance to impervious surface for the construction of a detached garage at 617 Wilkins Street,
to the October meeting. All in favor.
Case No. CD 2022-19: Variance to Setbacks for Exterior Decks at Chapel Hill Flats (Landucci
Construction)
Community Development Director Gladhill stated that the applicant wishes to amend the
previously approved Conditional Use Permit (CUP) to add five foot deep balconies projecting
from the exterior walls on three sides of the building (3rd Street/front, north facade/side
interior, east facade/rear). There would be no projections on the Myrtle Street facade. The
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Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) approved the revised design. However, the addition
of balconies requires a setback Variance from the Planning Commission. Staff has reviewed
this inquiry with the City Attorney on multiple occasions over the past year. It is the City
Attorney's legal opinion that the balconies must meet the minimum required setbacks per City
Code Section 31-514 (Miscellaneous residential and non-residential performance standards).
City Code allows a maximum projection of three feet for the purpose of fire escape, which these
balconies are not. From a design standpoint, the HPC believes that, despite the need for a
Variance, balconies will improve the design of the proposed building. Staff struggles to
determine a practical difficulty to justify the Variance. A draft resolution for approval is in the
packet; if the Commission decides to deny the request, a new resolution will be brought back
to the next meeting to ratify the findings.
Nathan Landucci, applicant, explained there would be 17 balconies on the 21 unit building.
From a 2D perspective, the five foot projecting balconies would look identical to the current
design where the balconies are up against the sliding doors. He stated that the HPC agreed that
from an architectural standpoint, having a balcony was more appealing than having the "gate"
right in front of the door.
Chairman Dybvig opened the public hearing.
Anne Anderson, 110 Myrtle Street East, asked if she and her husband want to do anything
with their property in terms of expansion or garage, would there be anything prohibiting them
from doing that if the inhabitants of the Landucci building have balconies looking east?
Mr. Gladhill replied nothing that this developer is going to do on his own property will impact
110 Myrtle Street. What is being discussed is not an encroachment on a property line, but a
setback.
Ms. Anderson said there are other situations in the City where buildings have been built in
front of other buildings, so would that be an issue down the road?
Mr. Gladhill replied allowing a building in front of another building seems like a whole other
conversation.
Chairman Dybvig restated, whichever way the Commission decides tonight, the Andersons
don't lose any rights.
Todd Anderson, 110 Myrtle Street East, asked what is the current setback, and Mr. Gladhill
answered each property line has a slightly different setback. The minimum setback on Third
Street is 15 feet and the footprint of the structure itself is at 15 feet. There is no encroachment
on Myrtle Street. The minimum sideyard setback is 25 feet total between the two side property
lines (north and south). The developer has pushed that very close to the northern property
line so there is just shy of 20 feet total between those two. On the east side, the foundation of
the building is right at the 20 foot setback. The proposed balconies would be about 15 feet
from the property line and there is ample distance from the property line to the Anderson
home.
Chair Dybvig closed the public hearing.
Commissioner North asked for clarification between a three foot and five foot allowance for a
balcony.
Mr. Gladhill answered he can't speak to why three feet is allowed for fire balconies other than
having proper egress for emergency. The building is already into the minimum setbacks. The
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portion of the building that is above grade is at the setback line. The subgrade footprint is
larger than above grade, to make the parking work.
Motion by Councilmember Odebrecht, seconded by Commissioner Steinwall, to deny Case No. CD
2022-19, Variance to Setbacks for Exterior Decks at Chapel Hill Flats, 107 3rd Street N.
Commissioner Cox remarked the proposal pushes the envelope too far.
Chair Dybvig said he can't see any practical difficulty. The building fit within the parameters
previously and he doesn't see anything that has changed on the property since then.
Commissioner Steinwall commented this is a plight created by the landowner, not by unique
circumstances relating to the property. Economic considerations to make units more appealing
are driving the request.
All in favor.
Mr. Gladhill said a new resolution will be drafted for the next meeting to adopt the official
findings of fact based on discussion. The applicant has 10 days to appeal the denial to the City
Council.
Case No. CD 2022-48: Ordinance Amendment of 31-514.1 Cannabis -related uses
Mr. Gladhill presented a possible zoning ordinance amendment which allows manufacturing of
THC-infused beverages as an accessory use at breweries and distilleries, and allows the sale of
THC-infused beverages at off -sale liquor establishments. The Planning Commission is asked to
make a recommendation to the City Council. There have been rapid State legislative changes in
regard to CBD and Cannabis manufacturing, uses and sales. Tonight's recommendation will be
forwarded to next week's City Council meeting for first reading of the ordinance and for an
October 17 public hearing.
Chairman Dybvig opened the public hearing.
Dave Anglum, VP of Adult Beverage for Cub Foods, 421 Third Street, stated Cub Foods has
taken a very persistent approach to the process. Cub is owned by UNFI which is a much bigger
company that has done due diligence with finance and insurance to open up cannabis sales for
the 15 stores that are actively selling. Under the current format, Cub Foods may be the only
liquor store in the City of Stillwater that is not selling THC products despite the moratorium in
place. Cub is asking for a fair representation across the entire municipality so they are allowed
to do what everybody else is presently doing. They have checks and balances in place for
training, and already do carding for all alcohol sales.
Chairman Dybvig closed the public hearing.
Councilmember Odebrecht noted manufacturing, on sale and off sale are very different. He has
no problem with manufacturers making and selling THC infused beverages where permitted. If
a store is selling alcohol or tobacco to minors, City police can take care of it. If they're selling
marijuana, enforcement goes to this giant agency that isn't set up yet. He does not see a strong
consensus on the City Council but does not think any Councilmembers are anti cannabis. The
Council just wants to drag its feet a bit.
Chairman Dybvig remarked there are a lot of other communities that are making it happen. He
is fine with allowing manufacturing and also advocates for allowing off sale.
Commissioner Cox commented if the craft beer industry is declining, and Lift Bridge can't
make CBD products on the other side of the river at the new facility they're planning, it
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becomes possible that on this side of the river it becomes a primary use and the beer gets
produced on the other side of the river. She can see it switching if the demand for these types
of products is growing that quickly.
Commissioner Steinwall said she would recommend to the Council that the ordinance as
drafted be adopted, primarily because it's a rapidly changing landscape and the City is going to
have to reconcile the ordinance in 2025 with State law. She doesn't think the City should
handicap its liquor stores.
Commissioner North echoed Commissioner Steinwall's comments, the City shouldn't inhibit or
slow down businesses that want to do business under the law. He is fine with manufacturing
and off sale being in the same document.
Motion by Commissioner Steinwall, seconded by Commissioner Cox, to recommend that the City
Council adopt the zoning ordinance amendment as drafted. Motion passed 4-0-1 with
Councilmember Odebrecht abstaining.
NEW BUSINESS
There was no new business.
DISCUSSION
There were no discussion topics.
FYI STAFF UPDATES
Mr. Gutknecht led discussion of possibly allowing drive-thrus in the Neighborhood Commercial
District. The specific request came from Nelson's Ice Cream which attempted to have a drive
through earlier in the year that generated a complaint.
Commissioner Steinwall said she is disinclined to approve drive-thrus in the Neighborhood
Commercial District because of traffic concerns and abutting neighbor concerns.
Chairman Dybvig agreed with the concerns expressed.
Commissioner Cox said she doesn't want to limit businesses and say it can never happen, but
the location is really tough.
Commissioner North said he doesn't want to inhibit business but is concerned about impact on
traffic.
Mr. Gladhill summarized there is fairly strong consensus opposing an ordinance change to
allow drive-thrus in this district. Nelson's may bring it up at an open forum at a City Council
meeting to see if there is any different direction coming from the Council.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Cox, seconded by Commissioner Stei wall, to adjourn the meeting at
8:11 p.m. All in favor.
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