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HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
May 18, 2022
REGULAR MEETING 7:00 P.M.
Chairwoman Mino called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Present: Chairwoman Mino, Commissioners Finwall, Heimdahl, Holmes, Larson,
Summers, Thueson, Councilmember Junker
Absent: None
Staff: Community Development Director Gladhill
ELECTION OF OFFICERS
Motion by Chair Mino, seconded by Commissioner Larson, to elect Commissioner Thueson as Chair
and Commissioner Heimdahl as Vice Chair. All in favor.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Possible approval of minutes of April 20, 2022 Regular Meeting
Motion by Commissioner Mino, seconded by Commissioner Heimdahl, to approve the minutes of
the April 20, 2022 meeting. All in favor.
OPEN FORUM
There were no public comments.
CONSENT AGENDA
Case No. 2022-25: Consideration of a Variance for a front porch. Property located at 107
Laurel St E in the Downtown Stillwater Design Review district. Eric Hansen of Fresh Start
Builders, applicant and Ryan and Mary Collier, property owners.
Chair Thueson requested that Case No. 2022-25, Variance for a front porch at 107 Laurel St
E, be pulled from the Consent Agenda and placed under New Business.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
There were no public hearings.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Case No. 2022-22: Consideration of a Design Permit for a new residence on the property located
at 1008 5th St S in the Neighborhood Conversation District. Spencer Middleton and Sofie Cohen.
property owners. --Tabled from April
Mr. Gladhill reminded the Commission that on April 13, 2022, the HPC approved a full
demolition due to a variety of structural concerns with the original foundation, therefore a new
Design Permit is required per City Code. The new design is for a single -story home with
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attached, recessed garage. The home contains a north -south directed gable roof with two
dormer additions. The design has a "modern craftsman" feel. Overall, the massing of the new
design is minimally greater than the existing structure that has been altered. Staff recommends
approval of the Design Permit with six conditions.
Motion by Commissioner Larson, seconded by Commissioner Mino, to approve Case No. 2022-22,
Design Permit for a new residence at 1008 5th St S, with the six staff -recommended conditions. All
in favor.
NEW BUSINESS
Case No. 2022-25: Consideration of a Variance for a front porch. Property located at 107 Laurel
St E in the Downtown Stillwater Design Review district. Eric Hansen of Fresh Start Builders,
applicant and Ryan and Mary Collier, property owners.
Mr. Gladhill explained the case. The applicants are requesting a Variance to the Front Yard
Setback in order to construct a front porch. He stated that historic photos of the Greek Revival
style house indicate a front porch was present at one point. Staff recommends that the HPC
concur that the requested Variance and associated front porch complies with the Stillwater
Design Guidelines for the Downtown Design Review District, approve the design permit and
recommend the approval of the requested Variance by the Planning Commission.
Ryan Collier, property owner, showed historic photos depicting a kitchen bump -out, rear porch
and front porch. He explained his continuing, historically accurate renovation of the house.
Commissioner Summers asked, regarding the dormer, what is driving the shift from the
original style?
Eric Hansen, Fresh Start Builders, stated the issue is that the transom over the door allows for
only 16" of space between the sill of the second story windows and the trim on the transom.
They would like to have a beaded ceiling with lights. The dormer is designed to accommodate
a barrel vault on the inside to allow for the transom to stay as is and have an appropriate
ceiling.
Mr. Collier added that the dormer on the front mimics the small dormer on the side porch.
Motion by Commissioner Mino, seconded by Commissioner Holmes, to recommend that the
Planning Commission approve Case No. 2022-25, Variance for a front porch at 107 Laurel St E,
noting it is relative to setbacks of adjacent homes. All in favor.
Case No. 2022-31: Consideration of a Design permit for storefront modifications. Property
located at 223 Main St S in the Downtown Stillwater Design Review district and the Historic
Central Business Height Overlay district. White Bear Ventures, property owners.
Mr. Gladhill explained the application for a Design Permit to repair and reconstruct the
storefront at 223 Main St S. Additionally, a later add -on to the request is to complete brick
repair and tuck -pointing on various portions of the building. The existing plywood panel is in
poor condition and would be removed and replaced with wood paneling, and the existing first
floor brick wall (not original to building) and associated metal storefront glazing would be
removed and replaced with wood paneling and metal storefront glazing. If transom windows
exist behind the wood, staff would prefer the transom windows be maintained. Instead of
angled brick wall, the front wall will still be recessed but will be more angled to be almost flush
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with the sidewalk. Staff finds with certain conditions the proposed improvements conform to
the standards set forth for design review and therefore recommends approval with eight
conditions.
Brenda Farrell, White Bear Ventures, applicant, stated the previous contractor failed to meet
City requirements and cost them a large amount of money. She introduced Steve King, their
new contractor. She stated, and Mr. King agreed, there are no transom windows behind the
wood panels.
Commissioner Holmes asked if transom windows could be added to enhance the design.
Ms. Farrell replied they are committed to this building and to Stillwater. The front door needs
to be replaced, sidewalk is heaving, they are going to have the fire hydrant removed and
attached to the building, and will spend about $100,000 to replace some of the brick so there
is probably no problem doing transom windows if that is what the HPC wants. They will keep
the entrance ramped for handicapped accessibility. The tenant wants to be in by September 15
so there is not a lot of time to delay.
Commissioner Heimdahl commended the work already done and urged the applicant to look
at the storefront as the gateway to one of the most historic buildings downtown, basing design
off its neighbors rather than what was previously done to this building. He added that being
within the historic district opens the possibility of tax incentives for property owners.
Commissioner Finwall asked if there is time to table the case for further discussion of transom
window design and signage, and still accommodate the new tenant.
Mr. Gladhill replied that would require extending the 60 day time limit.
Mr. King asked if it would meet approval if they installed a small transom and left room for
signage. Ms. Farrell added, for instance, if they committed to 75% transom, 25% signage for
that whole band?
Commissioner Holmes suggested approving the design permit with a condition that the final
design include 75% transom and no more than 25% sign band/wood, and ask staff to work
with the applicant on final design.
Commissioner Larson suggested the design carry similar horizontal lines as neighboring
buildings to get the proportion correct, and that the storefront windows be as large and
undivided as possible.
Commissioner Finwall asked if the Commission could approve the design permit in part, so the
applicant can start removing the existing storefront and the HPC could review final plans next
month.
Ms. Farrell responded that, due to COVID supply issues, if they can't get the window order
placed, there would be plywood there for the whole fall season.
Commissioner Heimdahl agreed the HPC could approve the design permit in part, so the
applicant can start work, but bring back an updated sign and storefront proposal to the next
meeting.
Commissioner Summers acknowledged the timeline constraints. He strongly recommended
the HPC grant contingent approval, with further review by a few members of the Commission
so the applicant may meet their timeframe as best they can.
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Commissioner Finwall recommended that Conditions #2 and 7 that pertain to signs be
removed and a Condition be added stating that a future storefront sign would come back to the
HPC for approval.
Mr. Gladhill stated a single -tenant storefront sign may be administratively approved. It also
can be on the Consent Agenda so the HPC would see it.
Commissioner Summers stated he is reluctant to go outside the standard process unless there
is a compelling reason. He is not sure he would support requiring the HPC to review a sign if
that would not normally be the case.
Commissioner Mino stated she hesitates also, but the sign would be reviewed and approved by
staff and would be on the Consent Agenda at the next meeting so the HPC would still be looking
at it.
Commissioner Holmes stated that if staff are entrusted to enforce the sign ordinance, the HPC
need not be designing signs by committee for single tenants.
Commissioner Finwall noted the signage is part of the overall design and is a Condition of
approval which is why she brought it up. She feels a bit pressured to pass this. Normally the
HPC would review the entire plan.
Motion by Commissioner Summers, seconded by Commissioner Mino, to approve Case No. 2022-
31, Design permit for storefront modifications at 223 Main St S, with the eight conditions
recommended by staff, contingent that City will work together with the owner to reach a
reasonable outcome, and adding Condition #9 stating that the front facade be modified to
incorporate transom windows with a sign band on top that will look substantially similar in scale
and materials to the neighboring buildings on the north and south sides. All in favor.
Case No. 2020-27: Consideration of an Amendment to previous Design Permit for rooftop
improvements. Property located at 223 Main St S in the Downtown Stillwater Design Review
District and the Historical Central Business Height Overlay District. White Bear Ventures. property
owners.
Mr. Gladhill stated that White Bear Ventures, LLC (Richard and Brenda Farrell) has requested
a revision to a previously approved Design Permit. In addition to HPC Case #2020-27, the
applicants also requested a Variance to Building Height from the Planning Commission in 2021
(CPC Case #2021-34), which was ultimately denied. The Planning Commission found that
adding a fourth story as a 'penthouse space' is counter to the Downtown Height Overlay
District's intent to limit structures in this area to three stories. Staff recently discovered that
several rooftop improvements were being constructed without proper building permits.
Additionally, improvements appear to be inconsistent with the design permit approval. The
City issued a stop work order. Staff met with the property owner at the end of 2021 as a new
contractor was hired to complete the project and outlined the need for proper permits and
approvals. Staff is attempting to work with the applicants to find reasonable solutions, but
needs direction from the HPC. The applicant is requesting the following changes to the Design
Permit: 1) Use fiber -cement panels in lieu of standing seam metal panels on the elevator tower;
and 2) Convert the existing storage building into a rooftop bar (for private use), also utilizing
the fiber cement panels. Staff is attempting to assist in moving this project forward, but only
recently learned of the planned revisions. Staff has not had the ordinary timeframe to fully vet
this new/revised request.
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Councilmember Junker asked what is the maximum height allowed for an elevator tower.
Brenda Farrell, White Bear Ventures, applicant, stated the elevator shaft is 14'1" tall, which is
the height needed to get the elevator car up that high.
Mr. Gladhill added that an elevator shaft like this for certain mechanical equipment is
exempted from height restrictions. The HPC previously approved a design permit for the
elevator shaft; this review is about the external materials.
Ms. Farrell stated she had no idea that the metal was a requirement. The previous contractor
helped her measure and ordered the Hardy siding. She accepts responsibility for this error but
feels it looks much better. The product has been there for a year. They also added a small
dormer on top. The shed is primarily for storage of outdoor furniture, with some storage for
glasses and for beverages. There was a third structure which was torn down - it was the
original elevator shaft on the river side.
Commissioner Larson stated he reviewed the meeting minutes and drawings from 2020. What
is now on the roof is completely different than what was approved. As an owner, Ms. Farrell
has an obligation to know what's going on. The HPC required that the elevator shaft be reduced
to the absolute minimum for exiting the stair and the elevator legally. The HPC clearly stated
the City does not allow storage to be on roofs when it exceeds height restrictions. What is
allowed is access to the roof.
Ms. Farrell responded that the original building permit was for it to be able to go all the way to
the back of the stairwell.
Commissioner Larson quoted meeting minutes from November 18, 2020 adding a condition of
approval that the maximum height and area of the rooftop improvements shall not exceed the
compliant minimums for ADA accessibility. It also required dark subdued standing seam metal.
Part of the previous City Planner's rationale for recommending approval was that the project
would be reducing the number of structures on the roof. Today there are two structures which
are not what was agreed to, and he is not comfortable accepting that second structure.
Commissioner Finwall asked if it was a condition in 2020 that one of the structures be
removed.
Commissioner Larson replied it was not a condition, it was how the project was presented by
the applicant at the time.
Ms. Farrell stated to be very clear, there was no construction done other than that small
dormer. The structure has always been there, it is not something they built.
Commissioner Larson responded, before it was to be removed and now it isn't. Why?
Ms. Farrell replied she can't speak to what the contractor stated. Unfortunately the contractor
made all sorts of promises and didn't fulfill them.
Commissioner Larson pointed out there is a signed agreement with the City, signed by
"Owner's Representative" that outlines all the items agreed on.
Councilmember Junker remarked there probably is a video recording of that meeting.
Ms. Farrell commented she and her husband have built and remodeled many houses. She had
no idea about the contractor errors. The current building permit allows them to build all the
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way to the end of the elevator shaft. She is asking that they be able to use the existing storage
shed and not tear it down, thus spending more money on the roof.
Mr. Gladhill remarked in the future, perhaps design permits should be signed not only by the
applicant but also by the property owner.
Commissioner Larson continued that he has more issues with the big picture, the multiple
structures there, than with the materials. But the materials agreed to are the same materials
the HPC has required of many others in the downtown area. He asked what would be the
consequence for the owner if the structure with the gable were removed as agreed upon.
Ms. Farrell replied it would cost at least $20-25,000. The product is already there and on order.
Mr. Gladhill clarified that, in the City's scanned files on record, there is no active permit for any
of the rooftop improvements. There is an application, and he has had significant conversations
with the building official, but the City has not issued a building permit for any rooftop
improvements.
Chairman Thueson agreed with Commissioner Larson's desire to stay with the original plans.
Commissioner Finwall pointed out the HPC is looking at more than a modification to materials.
The case could be tabled and the applicant directed to bring back the full proposal, including
everything they wish to do.
Ms. Farrell noted the tip of the structure can barely be seen from the street. If they have to
remove it, the HPC should understand they will not proceed with any of the additional money
proposed to be spent on the facade or brick to make this building look beautiful for the City.
It's extremely unfortunate that the HPC expects this 100 square foot building that can't be seen,
to be torn down.
Commissioner Finwall asked if the applicant could bring back a new application.
Mr. Gladhill stated there's not an application per se to move forward on this amendment. He
hears Commission consensus that the elevator shaft needs to be standing seam metal. Maybe
the issue of what to do with that other small building could be brought back at a later time.
That would at least give them direction so they can finish up the elevator shaft.
Ms. Farrell reiterated that the two small dormers could be removed and then that structure
would be identical to what it has always been.
Commissioner Larson stated he thinks the applicant is under the impression it was approved
as a larger structure but he understands, based on minutes, that it was to be reduced in size as
much as possible. That needs clarification.
Chairman Thueson stated due to the confusion, he would feel better if the HPC tables the case
and gives staff more time to provide a recommendation.
Commissioner Mino stated she is comfortable tabling it but the applicant needs to look back at
discussion that took place when this originally came before the HPC.
Ms. Farrell replied she is not arguing about what happened two years ago. She is asking
consideration of a small building that has been there.
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Councilmember Junker remarked that the City takes rooftops extremely seriously from the
standpoint of height. With the elevator shaft and the stair vestibule, the consolidation of
eliminating the third structure was discussed thoroughly as minutes indicate.
Mr. Gladhill recommended tabling the case which would still allow the applicant to proceed
with the elevator shaft based on previous conditions.
Ms. Farrell showed pictures of nearby rooftops with mechanical structures that refute the
integrity that the City strives for in rooftops. She is trying to make this building as beautiful as
possible.
Motion by Commissioner Finwall, seconded by Commissioner Mino, to table Case No. 2020-27,
Amendment to previous Design Permit for rooftop improvements at 223 Main St S, with the
understanding that the elevator shaft building will follow the original design permit with metal
siding, and any modification to the second building, if it is to remain, will come back before the
Commission. All in favor.
OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS
Union Art Alley
Sara Jespersen, owner of The Lumberjack, shared a proposal to create Union Art Alley, in
partnership with Heather Rutledge, director of ArtReach St Croix, and local Union Alley
businesses. They would like to create a vibrant ever -changing space for storytelling through
the visual arts. They did a quick study on what would be the safest way to affix art to the historic
buildings. The art could be printed on banners affixed to some buildings; chalk art could be
used for the brick because it would eventually wash away, and they could direct paint on cinder
block which would improve the appearance. The art could follow a theme and be approved by
a subcommittee. The idea is to feature local artists while preserving the historic nature of
downtown.
Councilmember Junker suggested the cinder block section could be a permanent mural that
depicts the historic nature of Stillwater. He loves the idea.
Commissioner Heimdahl noted that a subcommittee of the HPC is drafting guidelines and best
practices for public art.
Commissioner Finwall added that the subcommittee has been researching current mural
requirements and the sign code. Currently the code requires a Conditional Use Permit (CUP)
for a mural which seems extensive. There are 18 murals right now throughout the City. What
is proposed might not meet current guidelines but it is a great idea.
Commissioner Holmes wondered if a CUP could be placed over the entire alley that would
allow looser guidelines for creativity to attract artists. He also would like to see many different
mediums included, such as sculptures and overhead art.
Commissioner Larson voiced support, although the permanence of painting brick is a concern.
Ms. Jespersen replied there would be a different application on every building because each
building is a different surface. The historic brick would not be touched unless chalk is OK.
Commissioner Larson commented there is a shrink wrap product that can be applied to brick
but can also be removed.
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Mr. Gladhill stated staff will work with Ms. Jespersen for further refinement of the proposal
building by building, possibly as a CUP.
Policy for Packet Add -On Materials
Mr. Gladhill noted that day -of submittal creates confusion. The agenda is published on Friday.
Staff would like to make the end of business day on Monday the cut-off for adding new
materials for cases that are already on the agenda. Public comments could be accepted until
Wednesday. Commission consensus was in agreement. Mr. Gladhill will discuss it further with
other staff.
Annual Training Flyer
Mr. Gladhill reminded the Commission of the annual Boards and Commissions training on June
14.
City Parking Ramp Vandalism Mitigation
Mr. Gladhill reported that the City Council has been discussing an issue in the parking ramp
adjacent to the Lowell Inn. There is a brick pillar that individuals jump on and then up onto the
Lowell Inn roof and cause damage by throwing rocks down the roof drain causing costly
repairs. The City Facilities Manager is asking for approval to extend a block wall up to the roof
line and further out to prevent trespassing on top of the roof. Staff would like direction on
whether a block/CMU wall painted to match would be acceptable.
Councilmember Junker added that this issue came to the City's attention last June. The Lowell
Inn has spent over $41,000 cleaning up the damage. It would be a cinder block straight wall to
match the wall next to it and the brick bump -out would be removed. The Lowell Inn supports
the concept.
Commissioner Larson stated he believes the bump -out is structural, with a concrete reinforced
pilaster inside of it that goes all the way down. He agreed something taller needs to be there.
Ideally it would be lightweight, black, non -climbable vertical black steel as opposed to a big
concrete wall.
FYI
Stillwater Historic Homes Tour Materials
Mr. Gladhill shared information on the Stillwater Historic House Tour scheduled for May 22,
2022.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Holmes, seconded by Commissioner Finwall, to adjourn. All in favor. The
meeting was adjourned at 10:06 p.m.
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Matt Thueson, Chair
Tim Gladhill, Community Development Director
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