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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
May 23, 2022
REGULAR MEETING 7:00 P.M.
Chairman Brandt called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Present: Chairman Brandt, Commissioners Christensen, Johnson, Macswain, and Quie
Absent: Commissioners Souter and Weidner, Councilmember Polehna
Staff: Parks Superintendent Grode
ELECTION OF OFFICERS
Motion by Commissioner Johnson, seconded by Commissioner Christensen, to elect Johnson as
Chair. All in favor.
Motion by Commissioner Brandt, seconded by Commissioner Christensen, to elect Souter as Vice
Chair. All in favor.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Possible approval of minutes of April 25, 2022 meeting
Motion by Commissioner Christensen, seconded by Commissioner Macswain, to approve the
minutes of the April 25, 2022 meeting. All in favor.
OPEN FORUM
Louise Watson, 927 Northland Ave, complimented the City on the thinning of trees at Long
Lake Park, and the clean-up of Bridgeview Park.
NEW BUSINESS
Fees for Park Reservations
Parks Superintendent Grode stated that the City is working with a vendor to set up new park
reservation software to be available on the City's website in the near future. In order for the
software to decipher between a resident or non-resident, City staff will need to spend time
collecting and providing the park reservation company with a list of resident addresses, which
could delay the project significantly. The current park reservation fees are $50 for residents
and $100 for non-residents. Teddy Bear Park has a separate resident vs non-resident fee, and a
separate profit vs. non-profit fee. Often, a non-resident utilizes a resident who is a relative or
an acquaintance to get the reduced rate. In an effort to simplify the process and save on labor,
staff is recommending going to one park reservation fee for both residents and non-residents.
Commissioner Brandt said he has no problem with non-residents paying the lower fee if they
know a Stillwater resident who is involved with the reservation. Park fees in surrounding
communities vary widely and are sometimes based on the amenities of the park.
Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting May 23, 2022
Commissioner Macswain said fees should cover City costs including cleanup. He is not worried
about resident vs non-resident fees.
Commissioner Quie asked if a consideration should be the good will that residents feel by
getting a lower fee.
Mr. Grode said there aren't many fees that are less than $100. Park reservation software will
simplify the process. Currently, all park reservations are done by phone.
Commissioner Macswain asked if the new software can charge different fees for different
parks.
Mr. Grode replied yes, it is fairly simple to set the park prices in the reservation software.
Commissioner Brandt said he would prefer to not arbitrarily pick a number, but base a fee on
capacity data, supply/demand, cost of software, use and cleanup of the area.
Motion by Chair Johnson, seconded by Commissioner Christensen, to recommend the City Council
set one universal park reservation fee regardless of resident/non-resident.
Commissioner Christensen asked, what are they actually booking? Many people only use the
open space to take pictures or spend one hour, especially at Pioneer Park where there are
many weddings. He understands booking structures/shelters, but is confused about how a
reservation could cover just the open space, a corner of the grass.
Commissioner Brandt said people make reservations to ensure they will have the space.
Mr. Grode remarked if they don't make a reservation, there is a chance that other people will
be using the park. Software could show boundaries and define what area they are reserving.
Motion passed 3-2 with Commissioners Brandt and Christensen voting nay.
Motion by Commissioner Macswain, seconded by Commissioner Brandt, to direct staff to bring
back a review of pricing fee structure for parks based on tonight's conversation, and using data
such as the cost of maintenance, reservation software, and using nearby cities for comparison.
Commissioner Macswain explained he would like to see a spreadsheet showing how other
cities charge.
Commissioner Brandt added that he would like to consider the amenities of the park, how
many people it accommodates and so on.
Mr. Grode stated that staff is in the final weeks of getting the software going and needs a dollar
amount, otherwise the software cannot go live until July or August. Staff recommends the park
reservation fee be $100. It still needs to go to the City Council for action.
Motion failed 2-2-1 with Commissioner Christensen and Chair Johnson voting nay, and
Commissioner Quie abstaining.
Motion by Commissioner Christensen, seconded by Commissioner Quie, to request that every
January, the Parks Commission receive a spreadsheet of the park permits that were issued for
each park during the previous calendar year. Commissioner Quie offered an amendment, and
Commissioner Christensen agreed, to look at the software and review each park's amenities, and
what people are reserving, to provide a better idea for setting pricing. All in favor.
Motion by Chair Johnson, seconded by Commissioner Christensen, to recommend the City Council
set the park reservation fee at $100.
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Mr. Grode asked about Teddy Bear Park fees.
Chair Johnson withdrew the motion.
Motion by Chair Johnson, seconded by Commissioner Christensen, to recommend the City Council
set the fee for Stillwater parks at $100 with exception of Teddy Bear Park, where it would bump
up to what is currently the non-resident fee for all reservations, as recommended by staff. Motion
passed 3-0-2 with Commissioners Quie and Macswain abstaining.
2022 City of Stillwater Events and Updated Policies
Mr. Grode provided the changes to the event policy recently approved by the City Council, and
a spreadsheet showing the dates of 2022 events.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
There was no unfinished business.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Staff Updates
Mr. Grode informed the Commission that Bridgeview Park will be completed before Chestnut
Plaza construction starts. An initial plan is being reviewed for Aiple property including the
canoe launch. The river level has been up, delaying renovation work in Lowell Park, and
delaying the installation of Memorial Benches in Lowell Park. He showed possible designs for
park signage, for parks that do not have signs currently. The City does not have the software to
do QR codes and maps and would have to send that job out. The signs would match existing
wooden park signs, and would include the Stillwater logo. He will bring more options to the
next meeting. Two seasonal workers have started, and more part time workers are sought.
Commission Member Updates
There were no Commission Member updates.
Other Business
There was no other business.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Chair Johnson, seconded by Commissioner Quie, to adjourn. All in favor. The meeting
was adjourned at 8:03 p.m. The next meeting will be at 7 p.m. June 27, 2022.
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