HomeMy WebLinkAbout1997-06-23 PRC MINPARKS AND RECREATION BOARD
June 23, 1997
Present: David Junker, chairperson
Linda Amrein, Nancy Brown, Al Liehr, Del Peterson, Leah
Peterson, Mike Polehna and Steve Wolff
Others: Tim Thomsen, Parks Director
Absent: Rob McGarry and Ken Meister
Mr. Junker called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
Approval of minutes Mr. Peterson, seconded by Mr. Liehr, moved approval of
the minutes of April 28, 1997; motion passed unanimously.
Update on purchase of Meadowlark Park (Cowen) property
Signe Cowen was present for the discussion. She said there were three
areas of concern: the legal description of lot 10; the provision of a
landscaped barrier between the park access and the Cowen's property; and
the Cowens preference that the access not be blacktopped. Mrs. Cowen also
stated they had received a purchase contract agreement from City
Attorney David Magnuson two days prior to the meeting; the Cowens had
not signed the contract at that time as Mr. Cowen was out of town.
Mr. Peterson said the Cowens' concerns regarding the landscaped buffer
and the materials to be used on the access could be addressed in an overall
plan for the park. Mr. Thomsen said grading of the park was just beginning
and plans were to meet with neighbors to see what they want included in
the park.
Mr. Cummings said he felt the city should proceed with development of a
plan for Meadowlark Park and questioned whether funding is available.
Mr. Peterson moved to direct staff to develop a plan for Meadowlark Park
with input from the neighborhood and to check on the availability of funds.
Mr. Polehna seconded the motion; all in favor.
Discussion of presentation by Jon Gurban
There was considerable discussion regarding Mr. Kriesel's comments
summarizing the workshop/presentation by Mr. Gurban. The consensus was
that Mr. Kriesel's comments did not reflect the identified need for
additional assistance in parks planning and funding.
There was discussion about the parks planning resource the city already
has available in the person of Sue Fitzgerald. Mr. Thomsen said he thought
eventually it might be possible to have Ms. Fitzgerald working with parks
on a .75 time basis. It was suggested that if the city is unwilling to pay
for an additional staff person, perhaps the planning function would be
accomplished on a consultant/contract basis.
Mr. Junker raised the issue of who would be coordinating the work with
Mary Lou Gorski, School District 834, as was discussed at the meeting,
and spoke of the need for constant feedback. Mr. Junker said he felt some
type of motion would be appropriate.
Mr. Liehr moved to redirect Mr. Cummings' motion from the workshop
meeting, directing staff to discuss a comprehensive approach to planning
and funding and to report back to the Park and Rec Board, along with a
recommendation that special consideration be given to using an existing
resource (Sue Fitzgerald) or a consultant/contract arrangement. Mr.
Peterson seconded the motion; all in favor.
Discussion of a skate board facility
Jon Cowen and Andy Palmer were present at the meeting. They said they
had appeared before the City Council and were told to discuss the matter
with the Park and Rec Board. The young men said they just want a place to
practice their sport and mentioned Ramsey Park or Lily Lake as a possible
site.
Mr. Thomsen said Ramsey Park probably wouldn't work because of the
proximity of neighbors and the noise consideration. He said he thought the
south end of the Lily Lake arena would be a better location.
Mr. Liehr, seconded by Mr. Polehna, moved to direct Mr. Thomsen to
investigate the possibility of developing a skate board facility; motion
passed unanimously.
Proposed Long Lake surface water use ordinance
Mr. Junker said the proposed ordinance developed in the joint meeting with
the Planning Commission will be presented to the City Council in July.
Ms. Amrein referred to some information that members received after the
joint meeting and suggested that the proposed ordinance was not based on
correct information. Mr. Peterson said it would not be appropriate to
introduce something new at this point; the City Council discussion would
be the appropriate place to do that. Mr. Cummings suggested that if the
person who submitted the information believes the AUAR is not correct,
the information should be given to the engineer. Mr. Wolff said the
proposed ordinance is a starting point, and the issue will likely be
revisited in the future.
Mr. Junker, seconded by Ms. Brown, moved to adopt the proposed ordinance
and forward the ordinance to the City Council for the Council's
consideration. Motion passed 6-2, with Ms. Amrein and Ms. Peterson voting
no.
Availability of lot in Oak Glen
Mr. Cummings brought up the possibility of acquiring the lot which the
Water Department obtained for a future water tower site. The Water
Department will not be using the site and is putting the property on the
market. Mr. Cummings pointed out the parcel is near the LeCuyer property
where neighbors had previously asked the Park and Rec Board to consider
placing a "pocket park." The property is heavily wooded and has a pond
area, he said. Asking price is $44,000.
Mr. Thomsen provided photos of the property and cautioned that due to
wetlands and the pond, much of the land is not usable for park purposes. He
suggested that members look at the parcel in question.
Wayne Roller, 875 Eagle Ridge, who lives next to the property, said he
would be in favor of a park for younger children, but would be opposed if
the property were developed as a public park with access roads.
Mr. Wolff spoke of the need for park space, other than golf courses, in the
Oak Glen area. Mr. Junker and Mr. Polehna both suggested the Water
Department should be willing to give the parcel for park use, as the Water
Department has obtained property from the city at no charge in the past.
Mr. Wolff, seconded by Mr. Peterson, moved to recommend that the city
acquire the parcel, at a nominal fee, for open space and potential future
park use. Motion passed 7-1, with Mr. Polehna not in favor of leaving the
purchase price open.
Old business
Mr. Polehna and Mr. Cummings provided an update on the Sports Complex.
The project is still alive and well, they said, but the City Council meeting
of July 1 will be a "do or die" decision.
Mr. Peterson asked whether the Park and Rec Board should take on official
position. Mr. Liehr, seconded by Mr. Peterson, voted to go on record
strongly supporting the sports complex/community center project; motion
passed unanimously. Mr. Cummings encouraged members to attend the July
1 Council meeting.
New business
Mr. Cummings provided a handout on disc golf and on Woodbury's plans to
expand its sports complex.
Mr. Thomsen provided members with a copy of the plan for Ramsey Park.
Plans include a basketball court, picnic area, play area and new
landscaping. He said there is enough money in the budget to do about half
of the work this year.
Mr. Liehr asked about using park dedication fees to complete the project
this year and replacing the park dedication fees in next year's budget. Ms.
Brown, seconded by Mr. Liehr, moved to use park dedication fees to
complete the Ramsey Park project this year; all in favor.
Mr. Peterson asked about the picnic area/boardwalk at Lily Lake. Mr.
Thomsen said there is about $20,000 in available funds for the project;
the picnic area will be started this year, he said.
Ms. Amrein asked about the park tour. Mr. Junker said the tour will
probably be held in August or September; he will inform members. There
will be no meting in July.
Mr. Liehr, seconded by Ms. Brown, moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:50
p.m.; all in favor.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording secretary