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Home My WebLink About2022-01-19 HPC MINAter. IQ IIA INI IA CI V5 •IN NI IO TA HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING January 19, 2022 REGULAR MEETING 7:00 P.M. Chair Mino called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Present: Chair Mino, Commissioners Finwall, Heimdahl, Holmes, Larson, Thueson, Walls Absent: Councilmember Dunker Staff: City Planner Wittman APPROVAL OF MINUTES Po-ssible approval of minutes of December 9.2021 Regular Meeting Motion by Commissioner Larson, seconded by Commissioner Thueson, to approve the minutes of the December 9, 2021 meeting. All in favor. OPEN FORUM There were no public comments. CONSENT AGENDA There were no items on the Consent Agenda. PUBLIC HEARINGS There were no public hearings. NEW BUSINESS Case No. 2021-39: Consideration of a Design Permit for a Master Sign Plan for the property located at 4 0 2 M ai n St N i n theDown town DQ5i gn Reyj 2w D i5jri ct a n d theN i gh b orh o od C o nsgryad o n d is trict. AB Co.. property owner. -Tabled From the December Meeting, City Planner Wittman stated that the applicant is requesting a Design Permit for a master sign plan for a multi -tenant structure. In December, the HPC determined additional information was necessary and since then, a comprehensive sign plan has been developed. The applicant is proposing the following: 1) four, six square foot wall signs to be located on each side of the main entrance; 2) one, 20 square foot wall sign for the southern -most, ground -level tenant space; 3) four, 25 square foot wall signs for the northern -most, ground -level, mill tenant spaces; 4) one, 30 square foot sign wall sign for ground - level tenant space "B" (currently occupied by Victoriano's Pizza); 5) one, 35 square foot wall sign for ground -level tenant space "C" (currently occupied by the Stillwater Art Guild); and 6) one, 30 square foot free standing sign for Staples Mill Antiques. She reported that Commissioner Thueson suggested an additional condition of approval about the building sign "Isaac Staples Sawmill." Staff finds the proposed sign plan conforms to the Downtown Design Manual, City Code, the historic district, and does not negatively alter the essential character and significance of the building, site, and its surroundings. Therefore, staff recommends approval of the multi -tenant sign plan and associated signage with four conditions. Commissioner Finwall noted a scrivener's error, under the lower level signage, the lighting should state "one gooseneck light" rather than "one gooseneck sign." She also said that the sign plan should indicate that the size of the lower level signs, as tenants change over, should be the same size. Heritage Preservation Commission Meeting January 19, 2022 Ms. Wittman answered that some of the tenant spaces are larger and there are some spaces where there are more gooseneck lights to allow for a larger sign. Commissioner Finwall replied if they are larger tenant spaces, a solution might be to require a certain height for all signs but allow varying lengths. Ms. Wittman explained that all the lower level tenant signs are a maximum 2.5 feet. The ones that are 1.5 are for the three upstairs units and the "For Lease" sign. All lower level unit spaces will have the same sign height and the others will be slightly smaller due to their location. Commissioner Finwall suggested including that in the sign plan rather than "refer to the chart." Ms. Wittman replied that staff didn't include that language in the sign plan because the varying proposed lengths correspond with the unit letters. A schedule of some sort is needed to clarify which unit will have which signage in the future. Visual representation is needed. Commissioner Larson agreed that the exhibit shows the intent and its net result is that signs will be no more than 2.5 feet. He recognized the conflict between lighting that is there now and what the proposed guidelines say. That is the only thing he feels needs to be modified.. Commissioner Thueson suggesting language allowing gooseneck lights to remain where they are as depicted on the exhibit. Regarding the larger building sign, he suggested that even if the name of the building changes, the sign should still depict the name by which the building was known historically. Motion by Commissioner Thueson to approve Case No. 2021-39, Design Permit for a Master Sign Plan for the property located at 402 Main St N, with the four staff -recommended conditions, adding Condition #5 that the number and location of gooseneck lights remain as shown on the attachment, and adding Condition #6 that the building sign should use only a name by which the building was known historically. Commissioner Finwall seconded the motion and offered an amendment to correct the phrase "gooseneck light" vs "gooseneck sign" and also adding Condition #7 requiring a 2.5' max height for the lower level tenants in the first attachment of the sign plan. Commissioner Thueson stated that would be redundant but doesn't hurt so he agreed to the amendment. City Planner Wittman suggested the motion for approval could include the four recommended conditions and submittal of an amended sign plan that notes changes to 1A, stating "The historic building sign may be used only for a name by which the building was known during the lumber era 1843-1914"; to 2C, stating "Size shall not exceed 2.5' in height as defined per unit on the attached Exhibits A and B"; and to 2E, stating "Gooseneck lighting is to be installed above each sign in locations as depicted on Exhibit B, attached. Lights to be compatible to the building." All in favor. Case No. 2022-05: Consideration of a Design Permit to amend -the master sign plan For theproper y located at 401 Main StS in the Downtown Design Revi wD-isirict, Gina Kazmerski.f Im Woodbury_ applicant and DCK Enterprises LLC. property owner. Ms. Wittman stated that the applicant is requesting a Design Permit for a multi -tenant sign plan amendment for the addition of a projecting sign, currently for Unpaved Athleisure. Staff finds the proposed sign plan amendment conforms to the Downtown Design Manual, City Code, the historic district, and does not negatively alter the essential character and significance of the building, site, and its surroundings. Therefore, staff recommends approval of the amendment with five conditions. Chair Mino asked if the Stillwater Farm Store sign is still there. Page 2 of 4 Heritage Preservation Commission Meeting January 19, 2022 Ms. Wittman replied yes. A former representative of the building asked if it could be painted over and staff advised that any alteration to that sign should come before the HPC since it has been there for a number of years and may be considered historic. Commissioner Finwall remarked it would be beneficial to have a comprehensive sign plan for all future spaces to identify what each tenant will get. Ms. Wittman pointed out the City cannot make anybody submit for signage they don't intend to have. Commissioner Finwall responded it is the job of staff and the HPC to create the comprehensive sign plan so future signs will comply with what the Commission has approved. Ms. Wittman responded it is not the HPC's job to design signage, but to review it for conformance to the guidelines. Commissioner Finwall replied not necessarily design, but make sure it's comprehensive and consistent for the future. Commissioner Larson noted the applicants have submitted a comprehensive sign plan for the tenants that they have. They do not need to design signs for all the other combinations of tenants that could come before the HPC. If the use or tenants change they could come back. Motion by Commissioner Thueson, seconded by Commissioner Heimdahl, to approve Case No. 2022-05, Design Permit to amend the master sign plan for the property located at 401 Main St S, with the five staff - recommended conditions. All in favor. Case -No. 2022-0-6; Consideration of a Design Permit.ta- rep lace the roof and gutter system on the Stillwater Public Library_14cate-i_at2234th St N in the Downtown Design Review District. City of Stillwater, property owner and applicant. Ms. Wittman stated that on behalf of the Stillwater Public Library, the City of Stillwater has applied for a Design Permit for exterior modifications to the Stillwater Public Library, namely replacing the existing roof and gutter system with like materials. Staff finds the project substantially conforming to the standards and guidelines and therefore, staff recommends approval with three conditions. Chair Minos offered kudos to the City and the Library for choosing to use like materials. Commissioner Finwall asked if the old tiles can be recycled. Mick Greiner, Stillwater Facilities Manager, on Zoom, said they are looking at whether tiles could be recycled to reduce the cost. Chair Mino said sometimes donors will buy those tiles to contribute to the project. Motion by Commissioner Walls, seconded by Commissioner Larson, to approve Case No. 2022-06, Design Permit to replace the roof and gutter system on the Stillwater Public Library located at 223 4th St N, with the three staff -recommended conditions. All in favor. UNFINISHED BUSINESS There was no unfinished business. OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS FYI There were no other discussion items. Ms. Wittman shared that Zoning Administrator Tait has resigned to move back east. A vacancy will be advertised soon, but the Department is currently down one staff member. She is inquiring with the Page 3 of 4 Heritage Preservation Commission Meeting January 19, 2022 State Historic Preservation Office grant program about potential funding to help hire someone to look at past plans and studies and possibly for local designations in the future. ADJOURNMENT Motion by Commissioner Finwall, seconded by Commissioner Walls, to adjourn. All in favor. The meeting was adjourned at 7:41 p.m. ATTEST: Abbi Wittman, City Planner Amy Mi o, hair Page 4 of 4